Swing planes

[ReefBoy]

Hi Guys,

While I am laid up with a stuffed shoulder I thought I would pose a question that has been rattling around in my head for a while.

The book is very general about the basics(posture, grip, etc) but does underscore their importance. Now, just before I got the book I came across Jim Hardy's "the plane truth for golfers" stuff. What I discovered after going through the material was that the swing I was taught by my Pro at the begining was actually a mixture of both styles and was at the root of my consistency problems. Since starting to eliminate the 2 plane stuff from my fundamental 1 plane swing things got simpler and the results were more repeatable.

Now here is my question, is it important to work out (for a new golfer) wether they are a 1 or 2 plane swinger first, develop the basic theory understanding of, and the physical experience of their swing first and then apply the 3 skills?

My thought is yes, so at least the club is moving around the body in a way that is at least going to provide a more consistent swing and impact position to start with(which minimizes risk of injury). From there along with the other fundamentals is a platform to build the 3 skills. I am really interested to hear not just agree or disagree views but more the why of that opinion. I just want to deepen my understanding of the method.

Christopher

[bill reed]

Re: Swing planes

hi
a really good book about both swings is, "the PLANE truth for golfers" Jim Hardy and John Andrisani, you mentioned. it tell you what you can and cant mix in a one and two plane swing and what the differences are between the two and its well worth a read.
cheers
bill

[ReefBoy]

Re: Swing planes

hi
a really good book about both swings is, "the PLANE truth for golfers" Jim Hardy and John Andrisani, you mentioned. it tell you what you can and cant mix in a one and two plane swing and what the differences are between the two and its well worth a read.
cheers
bill

Yes I know, I got a lot out of it.

But my question is, is it better for a new golfer to know that stuff before they start developing the 3 skills and why?

Christopher

[LowPost42]

Re: Swing planes

I'd wager that it's better for a golf coach to know what the Plane Truth has to offer.

In golf, I think that a coach should do the following, in this order:

1) Teach you how you're supposed to hit the ball - little ball first, then big ball.
2) Recognize how you're naturally swinging the club.
3) Apply the correct movements to build on your natural movement, while still hitting the ball properly.

Forget a 'cookie cutter swing'. Forget trying to swing like Tiger or Jack or Lee or Seve or Furyk. Lets see what YOU'VE got, then let's build it into a golf swing.

[BrianW]

Re: Swing planes

The people on this site that have taken 3Skills on board all seem to have been playing already so it is difficult to see how a complete novice would fair starting out with 3Skills.

I purchased the book last year as a fairly experienced golfer with a low handicap. The parts on ball striking and focusing on the way the club acts through the impact zone was quite enlightening and allowed me to create a new simpler focus on what was important and what was not.

I think someone who is a true follower of the system would not need to consider swing planes or whether they preferred a one or two plane swing, the system requires you to focus on how the club approaches and leaves the ball with different clubs, nothing else. The precept is that if these things are executed correctly then the rest will happen naturally.

I must concede that although 3Skills has improved my ball striking and cleared much of the clutter from my swing thoughts, I am not a fully paid up member. I have the experiences of many lessons, studies of swing gurus, playing experience and practice ingrained in my game I find it impossible for me to totaly throw off all that has gone before.

If you wish to use 3Skills properly then I would advise that you ignore swing plane considerations and just do what it says in the book.

[bill reed]

Re: Swing planes

hi
i think Hogan's the 5 fundamentals of golf is the best book out there for someone new to learn the basics without filling there mind with to many things once they get the basics ie, grip, stance and posture,first part of the swing, second part of the swing. the follow through and tweaking your game.
once you have the basics then i think that 3sk could help with your ball striking but i think you have to have the start of a swing there first.
cheers
bill