i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Dear Ubizmo,

You are the only one I believe is 100% honest in his assessment of this program. Although, I want to buy the book, it's just too difficult. I am beginning to believe that it's just another golf book.

Please keep posting your thoughts. I'll keep watching....

Thanks again for your honesty...

Chessbum....

is that post a wind up?
what makes you state that todd's assessment is the only honest one?
how can you comment on the 3skills program if you havent got the book
time to put up or shut up

[chessbum]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Dear Ubizmo,

You are the only one I believe is 100% honest in his assessment of this program.

Please keep posting your thoughts. I'll keep watching....

Thanks again for your honesty...

Chessbum....

[BrianW]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Purely in the spirit of debate, how much of this is because you have fundamentally sound swing mechanics anyhow?

Perhaps using 3Skills is liberating for you because of Bradley, The Swing Factory et al - you might be letting them go on one level but they are still there subconsciously.

I wouldn't disagree that the simplicity of 3Skills is freeing users of the techniques up to play better golf - how could I? the evidence is in this forum but I'd respectfully suggest many of the beneficiaries were half way there already.

And just to be mischievous, when we talk about the mechanics of the swing just what are "the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact" if not swing mechanics.

From my point of view I will be persevering with the 3Skills concept because I think I've [with Brian's help] solved a problem with Skill 2 that was really holding me back but I'm still not sure that its stands alone as a technique but rather something that frees you to [as previous posts have explored] just to "twat it albeit to "twat it" with control and purpose.

OK I'l retire now and await the bombardment.

OK Robin,

I do have a fairly useful swing already but it has never been natural or something I can just let happen, I have never been that happy with consistent sweetspot contact. I have posted here before that if I do not focus on an inside path I will swing outside, if I do not focus on closing the clubface I will leave it open at impact, I can and do manage these things quite well but it can easily go wrong. These have been some of the things holding me back from a very low digit handicap.

I am currently able to forget these things and concentrate on what really matters, working on getting them better and better without the clutter of thoughts pertaining to knees, hips, shoulders, elbows, etc etc. I find this quite liberating and my ball contact has improved in both quality and consistency.

Regarding what exactly qualifies as swing mechanics is not so much an issue to me as far as the semantics of them go. The important point in this for me anyway is that I am getting a steady improvement and I, like most have room for improvement.

I do take your point though, as Newton said, he sat on the shoulders of giants.

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Secondly, When I click on the US purchase it's $45. When I click on the UK it's $31 USD. What's up with that???

If I decide to send a money order, what is the price for the book and handling to a US address??? Please advise in USD.

Please advise,

Chessbum.....

I haven't even looked at the site but since picking up the book is fifteen squid in the pro shop at Hersham (and why wasn't mine signed?) then given the current worth of the US Peso then I assume the UK button is for shipping to UK addresses and the US button to US addresses and includes 14 dollar carriage.

[ubizmo]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Well, I just shot a 107, and I have to say it's not going well, considering the time I've been putting in practicing the three skills. I really want this to work, but it may be that some of us just aren't good enough to forget about swing mechanics. Because I really think the problem is not the three skills--there's clearly nothing wrong there. The problem is in the execution. It doesn't seem to help to forget about everything except hitting down and nailing the ball if, in fact, I can't manage to do that.

This morning I hit some amazingly good shots, and some horrifically bad ones. That's pretty much what happens at the practice range too. I'm wondering whether I should stick with this or try to at least get back into the 90s by returning to a more mechanics-oriented approach. Any thoughts?

[greghutton]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Over Joe's 23 year teaching career he has studied and used many teaching methods (including AJB's method). 3skillsgolf is very different:

A quote from me in my book “Nail it” states:

“The golf swing happens as a result of the players predetermined use of the golf club through impact to affect the desired ball flight”.

If the golfer focuses on ANY part of their body or their swing during the process of hitting a shot they are effectively making it harder for themselves.

3skillsgolf focuses the player PURELY on the golf club itself, the ball and the ball flight, nothing else. This is what makes it truly unique.

Having had a few people ask of the various influences in Joe's career I asked him to explain a little further. Read it HERE on 3skillsgolf.com

Hope this helps chaps. It's great to hear all the positive feedback.

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

good post oldwease
its the simplicity or purity of the instruction that makes it a success

[oldwease]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I have just got the book, obviously spurred by all the positive comments.

So far, I've only glanced at it. At first, I was disappointed as there's really nothing new (that's clearly pointed out in this thread, though). Also, I already adopt the three principles mantioned in my swing. However, thinking about it some more, I can see that the focus on these three core techniques, pretty much to the exclusion of everything else, would surely benefit many golfers. Some will get an immediate improvement (ie greater distance) simply by delofting their irons.

I also like the idea that the book strips so much away and concentrates on a few key processes. I do accept, though, that to get the most benefit, certain other elements of the swing must be in place. However, these could well come from simply trying to apply the 3 skills. Regardless, the book gives a key to consistent, good ball striking and is something that everybody can work on.

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Purely in the spirit of debate, how much of this is because you have fundamentally sound swing mechanics anyhow?

Perhaps using 3Skills is liberating for you because of Bradley, The Swing Factory et al - you might be letting them go on one level but they are still there subconsciously.

I wouldn't disagree that the simplicity of 3Skills is freeing users of the techniques up to play better golf - how could I? the evidence is in this forum but I'd respectfully suggest many of the beneficiaries were half way there already.

And just to be mischievous, when we talk about the mechanics of the swing just what are "the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact" if not swing mechanics.

From my point of view I will be persevering with the 3Skills concept because I think I've [with Brian's help] solved a problem with Skill 2 that was really holding me back but I'm still not sure that its stands alone as a technique but rather something that frees you to [as previous posts have explored] just to "twat it albeit to "twat it" with control and purpose.

OK I'l retire now and await the bombardment.

robin
you make a very good point in your post
when i had a lesson earlier this year the pro commented on how good my fundamentals were but didnt really offer anything that could help me improve.
i have in the 3 years ive been playing bought the mags,books,dvds etc and read 100's of tips in forums like this one but most of the time they only serve to confuse and contradict each other.
what 3skills has done for me is to strip away all that and just leave me with the 3 things i need to focus on.
i honestly believe if you dont approach 3skills in the right manner then you will struggle to make it work.
i had complete faith in it and was prepared to forget all previous swing thoughts and thats why i thinks its working for me.
by no means am i a natural golfer

[bdbl]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I had a session at the range tonight in prep for some games on the weekend. This time I lent my swing completely to the 3 skills which seemed to transpond into a shorter backswing that only concerned it's self with keeping the the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact.

I have to honestly admit that I am stunned at the effortless power that I am hitting the ball with and how every club in my bag is working so well. This 3 skills system is a breath of fresh air to someone like me who has been so tied up with the mechanics of the swing for so long, I feel that I can let go of all that complexity and just hit good shots.

Joe Hagan, I take my hat off to you!

Purely in the spirit of debate, how much of this is because you have fundamentally sound swing mechanics anyhow?

Perhaps using 3Skills is liberating for you because of Bradley, The Swing Factory et al - you might be letting them go on one level but they are still there subconsciously.

I wouldn't disagree that the simplicity of 3Skills is freeing users of the techniques up to play better golf - how could I? the evidence is in this forum but I'd respectfully suggest many of the beneficiaries were half way there already.

And just to be mischievous, when we talk about the mechanics of the swing just what are "the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact" if not swing mechanics.

From my point of view I will be persevering with the 3Skills concept because I think I've [with Brian's help] solved a problem with Skill 2 that was really holding me back but I'm still not sure that its stands alone as a technique but rather something that frees you to [as previous posts have explored] just to "twat it albeit to "twat it" with control and purpose.

OK I'l retire now and await the bombardment.

[ubizmo]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I also had a range session today, devoted to the 3 skills; my fourth practice session with them this week. I'm really back to working just skills 1 and 2, since the book says skill 3 has to be built on them. When I first started out with the book, I thought I had 1 and 2 "nailed," so to speak. In fact, I still seem to have no trouble at all with the drill for skill 2. But 1 comes and goes, and I get "false positives" with the drill. That is, I do the drill fine but the ball doesn't always do what it should. It may be the mats, as I speculated in my last post on the subject, or it may just be something or other I'm doing that's weird.

I have to agree, however, that working on the skills seems to move me in the direction of a shorter backswing, which doesn't bother me at all. Maybe it's the "nail it" visualization at work. After all, when I hammer a nail I don't take the hammer waaaaaaay back. In any case, length of backswing is not what the skills are about, so I don't pay much attention to it.

I'll be playing a round tomorrow morning, and I'm hoping I can climb back down out of the 100s again. It promises to be a gorgeous day, perfect for golf.

[BrianW]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I had a session at the range tonight in prep for some games on the weekend. This time I lent my swing completely to the 3 skills which seemed to transpond into a shorter backswing that only concerned it's self with keeping the the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact.

I have to honestly admit that I am stunned at the effortless power that I am hitting the ball with and how every club in my bag is working so well. This 3 skills system is a breath of fresh air to someone like me who has been so tied up with the mechanics of the swing for so long, I feel that I can let go of all that complexity and just hit good shots.

Joe Hagan, I take my hat off to you!

[greghutton]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I am warming to the idea of buying this book. I notice when you click on order it you can use paypal, any chance of setting this up for us Canadians?

Is there a Canadian vendor of this book we should know about?

You can use the USA paypal link snowman. The only reason there are two seperate UK and USA is for the higher shipping costs across the atlantic... I shall have it made a bit clearer.

You can also purchase the book through captaingolf.com | golf auctions and classifieds, who accept all debit/credit cards through their secure payment system via worldpay.

Hope this helps mate... enjoy the book

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

No problem Dave!

Snowman (aka Mark)

doh!
sorry mark

[snowman]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

good choice ian
just remember to get rid of all previous swing thoughts and have real belief in the 3skills concept.
as i say to everyone " if i can do it then anyone can"

No problem Dave!

Snowman (aka Mark)