i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

[slater170]

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I am warming to the idea of buying this book. I notice when you click on order it you can use paypal, any chance of setting this up for us Canadians?

Is there a Canadian vendor of this book we should know about?

good choice ian
just remember to get rid of all previous swing thoughts and have real belief in the 3skills concept.
as i say to everyone " if i can do it then anyone can"

[snowman]

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May I just say,
it is vital that people let go of all previous swing mechanics in order to understand the 3skillsgolf method.
If anyone, for what ever reason, does not do this they are making the game a million times harder for themselves.
Play well and practise in a simple manner.
Peace,
Kevin McDonald PGA.

I am warming to the idea of buying this book. I notice when you click on order it you can use paypal, any chance of setting this up for us Canadians?

Is there a Canadian vendor of this book we should know about?

[ubizmo]

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I was practicing the drills today at the range. I had a couple of thoughts. One thing that occurred to me is that club offset probably helps with skill 1. My irons are not offset at all, so I have no experience with this, but it made sense to me at the time.

The other thing I noticed is that practicing the drills on mats can give false results. At this range, I have no choice. There are no turf practice areas. The other range where I sometimes go does have turf areas, but it will soon be closing for good. But I can say with certainty that I was getting false results with the skill 1 drill, and that may be due to some interference from the mats. Even though the mats at this range are the best I've seen, I still think they don't give a true simulation of ball striking. If you hit the ball a bit thin, the mat tends to bounce it up onto the club face, so you get a better result than you would on grass. If you hit it fat, the club doesn't dig in, so you may still make decent contact. I know that there have been many times when I've hit a ball thin at the range, so that I can even feel the shock in my hands, but I still get fair ball flight. On the golf course, that same impact would result in a worm-burner that streaks 40 yards and dies.

[miffin]

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Hope you have posted mine!!!

[kevinhendrix]

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Hey guys.
Big hello to all the Arden boys in the house
Thanks so much for all your positive comments and continued support.
Anyone going to the British Masters maybe put a shout out about the 3skillsgolf and 'Nail It' to everyone there
We gotta all meet up again and have another game.
All handicaps will be subject to review as you all are 'nailing it' now I'm sure
May I just say,
it is vital that people let go of all previous swing mechanics in order to understand the 3skillsgolf method.
If anyone, for what ever reason, does not do this they are making the game a million times harder for themselves.
Play well and practise in a simple manner.
Peace,
Kevin McDonald PGA.

[slater170]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

good point ian
perhaps the guys at arden do have the slight advantage of having a real life vision on whats going on.
but i think the concepts and drills are easy to follow so i think if you follow the books instructions correctly then you should acheive some success eventually

[Ian Hancock]

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My take on this is that the swing path, clubhead speed and contact with the ball are ultimately what decides where the ball will go and how it gets there, everything else is secondary to these prerequisites. Most teachings in videos, books or lessons do not focus on these basic principles, if they did then there would be a whole bunch of less confused and better golfers out there.

Exactly Brian,

Guys,

Thoses who attended the Forest of Arden, have a slight advantage to how this 3skills work, Kevin, who did the demonstration actually stood in many positions totally again all fundimentals, even with his back to the target (yes his back)(not to mention 250+yds off his knees) just to prove that as long as you apply the 3skills then you will hit the ball where you want to, think about it no matter where you stand, come from the inside,downward blow with rotation.

My point was Monty, Couples, Nickalus, Trevino, Sabatini, Wiranchant ('The Asian fella with the worse swing I have ever seen') all have one thing in common--they all apply the 3skills.
Greg's right hand drill simply focuses on attacking the ball from the inside skill 2.

I have thought long and hard about this: all the things we work on when we have lessons are all designed to apply the 3skills, this is why this simple book seems to be a Revolution because it focuses on the basic task......!!!

I will be at the Belfry tomorrow watching the British Masters, I am hoping this will satisfy my mind that they focus on this simple thing, that's why they are so good, would you be if you spent your whole golfing career with only these 3 thoughts??.

Ian.

[ubizmo]

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Thinking on about this Tod, you may be swatting at the ball with your wrists. Maybe you can check that your hands are ahead of the club face into impact with your irons and level with your driver, to hit down you must not let the clubface get ahead of your hands into impact.

Good point; I hadn't considered that. It's not an easy thing to check, except with video. It's also not an easy thing to control. It's interesting that you mention swatting, since eliminating swatting is also the point of Greg's RH drill. Over the past couple of years, I've hit many buckets of balls practicing the RH drill. The trouble has always been that while I can execute the drill well, taking the club only to horizontal or less, it doesn't seem to stick when I go to anything approaching a full swing.

For me, the bottom line is that as much as we may want to avoid having to deal with swing mechanics, if the three skills aren't working there's really no alternative to them. If swing fixes don't fix anything, then the unwelcome but perhaps correct conclusion may be that one is striking the ball as well as one can, given one's basic abilities. It doesn't make the game any less fun.

[BrianW]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

My take on this is that the swing path, clubhead speed and contact with the ball are ultimately what decides where the ball will go and how it gets there, everything else is secondary to these prerequisites. Most teachings in videos, books or lessons do not focus on these basic principles, if they did then there would be a whole bunch of less confused and better golfers out there.

[Ian Hancock]

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Your statement is true if you do not care about distance, trajectory or where the ball ends up.

If you tell a young child to hit down on the ball they will hit the top of it. They did what you told them, but not what you wanted.

Hi There,

Please explain why the three statements will affect distance, trajectory or aim.

The player I mention all swing, set-up and have ball position that goes against fundimental.....!!!

As long as the three skills are applied the ball will go where the mind of the player wants it.

Ian.

[Shankless]

Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

Your statement is true if you do not care about distance, trajectory or where the ball ends up.

If you tell a young child to hit down on the ball they will hit the top of it. They did what you told them, but not what you wanted.

[Ian Hancock]

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I am not 100% sure if this is my opinion but with some deep thought I have come up with this controversal statement.

"It does not matter 1) where you aim, 2) how you swing 3) where you place the ball as long as you apply the 3 skills you should be successfull"

1) where you aim = Freddy Couples and many more

2) how you swing = John Daley, monty and many more

3) ball position = Jack Nicklaus off front toe for all shots and many more

If you say to a child "hit the ball" what does he do??

Hit the ball.

Ian.

[BrianW]

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That's right. And clearly there is some reason why I'm striking the ball at the equator or higher, since it's not what I'm setting out to do. Specifically, the bottom of my swing arc is changing either vertically or horizontally, or both.



I haven't altered the ball position, so I think it's not that. So it comes down to swing mechanics, i.e., lifting up or swaying or making some other movement of the body that's changing the position of the bottom of the swing arc. Of course, the trouble is, there are any number of things that could result in a change in the bottom of the swing arc. Finding the right one is a kind of swing mechanics scavenger hunt, and it's what keeps us all busy on this forum looking for swing tips. It is helpful to keep in mind that the precise way in which the club face meets the ball is ultimately all that matters. But keeping that in mind doesn't actually tell you what's wrong when you find you can't do it properly.



Yes, I have to agree with this. "No straight lines" is a fundamental.

Thinking on about this Tod, you may be swatting at the ball with your wrists. Maybe you can check that your hands are ahead of the club face into impact with your irons and level with your driver, to hit down you must not let the clubface get ahead of your hands into impact.

[ubizmo]

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Hi Tod,

I don't have the book with me at the moment but I can remember it tells you that if you hit a thin or topped shot it is because the leading edge of the club is striking the ball at it's equator or higher and nothing else.

That's right. And clearly there is some reason why I'm striking the ball at the equator or higher, since it's not what I'm setting out to do. Specifically, the bottom of my swing arc is changing either vertically or horizontally, or both.

I would imagine that you are either positioning the ball too far forward or you are lifting up to cause this.

I haven't altered the ball position, so I think it's not that. So it comes down to swing mechanics, i.e., lifting up or swaying or making some other movement of the body that's changing the position of the bottom of the swing arc. Of course, the trouble is, there are any number of things that could result in a change in the bottom of the swing arc. Finding the right one is a kind of swing mechanics scavenger hunt, and it's what keeps us all busy on this forum looking for swing tips. It is helpful to keep in mind that the precise way in which the club face meets the ball is ultimately all that matters. But keeping that in mind doesn't actually tell you what's wrong when you find you can't do it properly.

My drives have been so much better but I have to keep the vision of the clubface swinging into the back of the ball on a low arc that drives the nail like a hammer, the message that there are no straight lines in the swing is a good one.

Yes, I have to agree with this. "No straight lines" is a fundamental.

[slater170]

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Many thanks for replies to my post. I have decided to chance it and have ordered the book this morning.
Brian

Hi miffin
you are not chancing it!
keep an open mind, practice the drills dilligently and dont dilute the 3 skills with other swing concepts.
thats all i have have done and its paying dividends