The effect of lie angle with irons

[Collie]

Hi Guys
How important is it to have the lie angles checked and adjusted for my new X20'S?
How would/could this influence my ironplay?

[LowPost42]

Re: The effect of lie angle with irons

It's importance is directly related to the importance you place on your accuracy.

If you don't need more accuracy, you don't need your lies done. If you do, you do.

A modern PW (47&#176 that has a lie that is 1° out will be off line by 22 feet at 100 yards. So 2° out could be missing the green entirely with a swing that was perfectly fine and properly aligned.

To answer your second question, and upright lie sends the ball to the pull side and a flat lie sends it to the push side. Improper lie angle does not impart fade or draw spin. It dynamically augments face angle. In other words, it doesn't cause a slice or hook, but rather a push or pull.

[bdbl]

Re: The effect of lie angle with irons

A modern PW (47°) that has a lie that is 1° out will be off line by 22 feet at 100 yards. So 2° out could be missing the green entirely with a swing that was perfectly fine and properly aligned.

So presumably if the rest of your game dictates that you need a 7I from 150 yds (adjust to personal circumstances) the margin of error is greater?

[dannyra]

Re: The effect of lie angle with irons

I think lie angle has been fairly significant fault in my game. My lie angle is a bit to steep, which has caused me to have over active hands to keep the ball on line. My lie angle has being recently corrected and we've had to much snow to test it out (I didn't actually change my lie angle but through some other posts, I realized I've been standing to close to the ball).

[LowPost42]

Re: The effect of lie angle with irons

So presumably if the rest of your game dictates that you need a 7I from 150 yds (adjust to personal circumstances) the margin of error is greater?

Lie error decreases as loft decreases. That's why having your driver toe up at address doesn't really effect your drive too much.

But if your 150 club is your PW, having your lie out 1° puts you 33 feet (11 yards) offline. The greens at my home course are only 30 yards wide on average. Add some fade or draw spin, and you've missed the green entirely if you were aimed at the middle!

I had some real fun one day with my bending machine and a 66° wedge. This lie angle thing is for real.

[jamesh]

Re: The effect of lie angle with irons

[quote=LowPost42]It's importance is directly related to the importance you place on your accuracy.

If you don't need more accuracy, you don't need your lies done. If you do, you do.

A modern PW (47°) that has a lie that is 1° out will be off line by 22 feet at 100 yards. So 2° out could be missing the green entirely with a swing that was perfectly fine and properly aligned.


LowPost42;

I bought a used Taylor Made club - I think it is the equivilant of an 8 iron - is it expensive to have the lie angle tested and changed for this one club - or is it better to do it with all of the clubs?

My set of clubs are Callaway's and I was told these ones can't be bent - I think they have tungsten and whatever else in them.


Thanks,

james

[bdbl]

Re: The effect of lie angle with irons

Your profile doesn't say where you are based but if in the UK and near one of these stores then you can get your clubs checked foc.

http://www.direct-golf.co.uk/eflyers...rip/index.html

[LowPost42]

Re: The effect of lie angle with irons

[QUOTE=jamesh]

It's importance is directly related to the importance you place on your accuracy.

If you don't need more accuracy, you don't need your lies done. If you do, you do.

A modern PW (47&#176 that has a lie that is 1° out will be off line by 22 feet at 100 yards. So 2° out could be missing the green entirely with a swing that was perfectly fine and properly aligned.


LowPost42;

I bought a used Taylor Made club - I think it is the equivilant of an 8 iron - is it expensive to have the lie angle tested and changed for this one club - or is it better to do it with all of the clubs?

My set of clubs are Callaway's and I was told these ones can't be bent - I think they have tungsten and whatever else in them.


Thanks,

james

It's as expensive to get lofts and lies done in your set as an hour lesson with a good coach. I match a shop up here at $10/club.

As for Callaways - I highly doubt they replace your set when you send them back; so they must bend.

The next time I'm in the city, I'm going to grab a used Callaway - and either bend it or break it!

But for all of you who believe that clones are just as good as their OEM counterparts: I've bent plenty of clones from all the major OEMs without problems.