The Spider position

[LowPost42]

Re: The Spider position

Brian W,

Thanks for your input. I am now looking for a new golf club to join. I was curious about your figures so I took it on myself to try it out for myself. Earlier this afternoon when it was quite at my club I made my way to the 18th green with bucket of water in hand. I chucked it on the green to see if it would produce some feedback. Well cheers my friend I got some real feedback. I was not aware that the club secretary was driving past in his car at this time. He stopped got out of his car and demanded my name and membership number before instructing me to leave the course. I attempted to negotiate with him and explained my actions, however it all fell on deaf ears. He informed me that I would be getting a letter through the post and will have to explain my actions infront of the commitee.
Bogeygolfer

I'd say that I was double checking Dave Pelz's theories, and that I didn't have a chance to get my Pelz-meter out.

[LowPost42]

Re: The Spider position

hi
i think you have to admit that D Pelz has put in more hours in studying greens and how a ball reacts than any one else, his research has the top pros flocking to his door each year to help with there putting.
i also wonder how many of you would be carrying 3 wedges if it was not for D Pelz research into the short game.
cheers
bill

I would have been carrying 3, regardless. A gap wedge is a necessity in the modern set as a PW now has a 9 iron loft and the SW hasn't moved in loft at all.

So at the very least I'd carry PW, AW, SW. I have a LW that I pull when I'm short sided or in a home course bunker, but if I had to choose 3w or LW, I'd still take LW. I tried a XW at Pelz's recommendation, but don't have the chops to use it consistently.

[BrianW]

Re: The Spider position

Brian W,

Thanks for your input. I am now looking for a new golf club to join. I was curious about your figures so I took it on myself to try it out for myself. Earlier this afternoon when it was quite at my club I made my way to the 18th green with bucket of water in hand. I chucked it on the green to see if it would produce some feedback. Well cheers my friend I got some real feedback. I was not aware that the club secretary was driving past in his car at this time. He stopped got out of his car and demanded my name and membership number before instructing me to leave the course. I attempted to negotiate with him and explained my actions, however it all fell on deaf ears. He informed me that I would be getting a letter through the post and will have to explain my actions infront of the commitee.
Bogeygolfer

I did have an embarrassing moment once when entering the clubhouse after spilling the contents of a bucket down my white golf trousers The Captain recommended incontinence pants.

[bill reed]

Re: The Spider position

hi lowpost
it was D Pelz and his work mostly with Tom Kite that had other pros looking at the three wedge system and it was Pelz talking about the scoring clubs and the need for 3 or 4 wedges that had other top pros change. back when he started the three wedge system, most pros were against dropping off a 2,3 or 4 iron to make way for another wedge. it was only when Tom Kite was player of the year that next year and won so often on tour then pros started to change to 3 wedges.
with the pros changing to 3 wedges amateurs started wanting 3 wedges and the makers started making 3 wedges available, back then there were not 3 wedges available like they are now. a sand wedge and p/wedge was that norm.
with the pros adding a wedge most players had the lofts changed to make up for the lost 2,3 or 4 iron. this spaced out the distance between clubs more but you did not have a big gap in your long irons.
i would of thought that amateurs would do the same with adding a wedge but it seems that most amateurs just drop a club.
do you get asked to change the loft on clubs to make up for the dropped club. i would think that it would be a really useful thing to get a club maker to do if you have 3 wedges.
Pelz has changed golf with his wedge system and we all can get the benefits of the years of research he put into it in the 60s and 70s to find out there was a need for scoring clubs, the gap wedge thats in most players bags nowadays.
cheers
bill