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  • #16
    Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

    Guys,

    I can't believe you guys are so dismissive of any health boosting products, how many of you drink "Red Bull" or wear a "copper band" around your wrist, if it aids golf then great.

    I suspect that any beginner would suffer aches and pains like any new exercise would cause, this will eventually subside with repetitiveness (however not medicine "protein" of any kind).

    Keeping a healthy balanced diet with regular exercise should not cause any golfer aches and pains, it is usually down to a poor swing with to much agression and tense limbs, pro golfers play 5/6 times per week in extreme conditions, not many suffer through this.

    If you think it works it probably will, if you think miss the water before the tee shot you will have a wet ball.


    Ian.
    Last edited by Ian Hancock; 08-17-2005, 04:31 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

      Ian, to speak for the group, I think that it's not the product, it's the presentation.

      Touting the product was Asmodius' first post - huckster style. You know we've had our fair share of these types of posts - I've just never seen someone ripped so hard for it before.

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      • #18
        Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

        Ian,

        I am not dismissing the health benefits, but I don't blithely rely on "blind" information. Personally I like to consider the source first. I hope you have read the earlier website that I presented, with regard to the source.

        As an asside:
        I have a biochemistry degree so...It is surprising that a "new protein" will have all the health benefits, because as soon as the protein is in your stomach it is denatured (stomach acid) and then broken down into its base amino acids. And you can get all of those from a nice steak (mmmm steak). Your body then absorbs the amino acids in your intestine, and direct protein absorbtion is probably very limited (if not zero) because of the size of the polypeptide chain and the body would need a mechanism to transport the protein across the cell membrane (very tricky stuff that would possibly require genetic engineering). I wouldn't be surprised if the health benefits are from all the other stuff (minerals, fatty acids, vitamins, other complex carbon chains, etc) that is included in the RX-98. Don't get me wrong. Getting a sufficient supply of amino acids, minerals, vitamins, fatty acids, etc would be beneficial to anybody's health (not limited to golfers), but to say that it is all from a "new protein" is a bit of a stretch.

        Charles

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        • #19
          Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

          Guys,

          That is exactly what I said......................I think this is a mind thing if you think it is helping then it probably will.

          I don't think for a minute that this is any good.


          Ian.

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          • #20
            Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

            HAHA.... sorry guys no samples. Especially not the special Mexico brand. Just order some it's great stuff. Especially for Golfers. Were actually re-doing the site to turn it into a golf focused product. That wont be up for a couple of weeks though. www.rx-98.com

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            • #21
              Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

              Originally posted by Started2k3
              Ian,

              I am not dismissing the health benefits, but I don't blithely rely on "blind" information. Personally I like to consider the source first. I hope you have read the earlier website that I presented, with regard to the source.

              As an asside:
              I have a biochemistry degree so...It is surprising that a "new protein" will have all the health benefits, because as soon as the protein is in your stomach it is denatured (stomach acid) and then broken down into its base amino acids. And you can get all of those from a nice steak (mmmm steak). Your body then absorbs the amino acids in your intestine, and direct protein absorbtion is probably very limited (if not zero) because of the size of the polypeptide chain and the body would need a mechanism to transport the protein across the cell membrane (very tricky stuff that would possibly require genetic engineering). I wouldn't be surprised if the health benefits are from all the other stuff (minerals, fatty acids, vitamins, other complex carbon chains, etc) that is included in the RX-98. Don't get me wrong. Getting a sufficient supply of amino acids, minerals, vitamins, fatty acids, etc would be beneficial to anybody's health (not limited to golfers), but to say that it is all from a "new protein" is a bit of a stretch.

              Charles
              Charles, I think you would benefit from reading a little more of the info from our main site. www.designerwhey.com, Whey protein isn't broken down in your stomach as easily. It's absorbed though your intestines. Not only that but our protein is encapsulated in a manner that allows it to be time released. I know my first post must have seemed very "huckster" style and I don't mind being ribbed for it. But I do strongly believe in this product, I do use it myself regularly and I do stand by the results it's delievered for me. I do agree with Ian that there is a degree of the results that is psychosematic. But still there is a lot of science to back this up. As for the new protein, well it is fairly new, it's called MicroLactin and it's derived from a method of creating the Whey protein. I hate to put up a competitors site but they have info as well and I don't want to seem like I'm BSing you. http://www.brandenburg-nutrition.com...crolactin.html. There is a lot of data, from biochemists, MD's, Nutritionists, pro athletes and more to back up the claims made.

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              • #22
                Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                um, scratch my scientific like statement. I said that wrong. But please read the FAQ on www.designerwhey.com it says everything you need to know.

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                • #23
                  Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                  Did you ever ask why the hell did Mr. Jenkins smuggle $70 million worth of steroids? I'm sure he's a respectable man but it's hard to put faith behind a product when you know the man behind it has a nasty criminal record.

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                  • #24
                    Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                    you know, I don't really see that a "nasty" criminal record. Because then you're putting him up there with; armed robbers, rapists, pedophiles, murderers and a lot mor. But I do get your point. He's definitely not the criminal type any more, he's highly intelligent, knows his business and has guts. I tend to think that's a pretty good thing in a boss.

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                    • #25
                      Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                      A lot of our actions are driven my the motive of making money. My point is Mr. Jenkins had the guts to disobey the law to make personal gains. When someone has the capacity and audacity to cross the line, his moral attributes are questionable. There's no argument there.

                      I'm sure he's a great boss with excellent leadership qualities.

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                      • #26
                        Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                        As the article in the link provided by Started2k3 states, those that deal in drugs on the 'wrong side of the law' should (and often are) equally good on the proper side.

                        The reprehensible part is that he had the misdirected idea to operate against societal right.

                        But to make the coin he did running 'roids, it makes perfect sense that he'd be able to make the same cash running legal chems.

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                        • #27
                          Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                          I been drinking a new coffee on the market called Gano Cafe, it has reshi in it which cleanes your blood boost your immune and stregthens body organs. This product has really helped me get around the coarse with less fatigue and the recovery of energy after the round is a lot quicker. I have since became a distributor for it. if anyone is interested just send me a private message and I direct you how to obtain it.

                          It also is known to be more than 10 times more powerful than ginseng, so it will help your focus and mental game.

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                          • #28
                            Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                            How does it compare to Gatorade?

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                            • #29
                              Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                              Originally posted by asmodius
                              Whey protein isn't broken down in your stomach as easily. It's absorbed though your intestines. Not only that but our protein is encapsulated in a manner that allows it to be time released.
                              Putting the protein in a gel capsule (carbohydrate) will protect it from the stomach acids, and small proteins may be able to avoid many of the stomach enzymes.

                              Originally posted by asmodius
                              As for the new protein, well it is fairly new, it's called MicroLactin and it's derived from a method of creating the Whey protein.
                              From what I can gather. MicroLactin is not a new protein, but a set of proteins that are already in cow's milk. What is new is the isolation and concentration of these proteins, developed by Stolle Milk Biologics, Inc. Since these are not new proteins, then the human body may already have the transport mechanisms for these milk based proteins to breach the cellular membrane (similar proteins may be in human breast milk).

                              If you actually engineered a brand new protein, it would most likely be broken down into amino acids (singles or very short peptide chains) to be absorbed.

                              By the way, the clinical trial described on your "competitors" website, is not that convincing of a trial due to the lack of sample size (18 people). You could probably find a better one. Please don't bother, I am sure that the others on this 'board', are exactly that - with the science of the whey protein.

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                              • #30
                                Re: New Protein that is excellent for golfers...

                                Originally posted by LowPost42
                                Ian, to speak for the group, I think that it's not the product, it's the presentation.

                                Touting the product was Asmodius' first post - huckster style. You know we've had our fair share of these types of posts - I've just never seen someone ripped so hard for it before.
                                Online forums, like this, can provide "free" advertising for products. Alas the users of the forum, like myself, have fallen into their trap. At this point in time this thread has had 178 viewings. By responding "asmodius" has been able to supply us with even more information on his product.

                                Although it has been fun , forum users aggressively trying to stop the free advertising is not effective, because even calling him a "huckster" only means that he can supply more advertising information to the forum clients.

                                Either the forum moderators "kill" the thread, or the forum users ignore the thread until it dies (of old age - not listed in the "new posts" category ).

                                Now, about the NEW, REVOLUTIONARY, SPACE AGED, SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN, product that I have invented, called .....

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