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I tried a search and didn't find anything so i'm sorry if this is a repost.... I wanted to know if anyone has used http://swinglikemoe.com/index.php?cu..._Grip_And_Club . And as a beginner if it is a good idea to use a tool to replicate another's swing or just "create" my own, or use videos to copy "the perfect swing". I need honest opinions because i would really like to focus on my swing and grip before i get some horrible habit attached to my golf game while I'm still new :-)
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Re: Feeling of Greatness?!?!?!
Hi nevinem,Originally posted by nevinem View Post
Having a grip moulded exactly how a certain person gripped the club is the only way we can truly get into a particular players swing.
If we had electrical suits able to pass current through our muscles to allow us to "feel" how, say, Vijay Singh swings a club, that would be the ultimate golfing gismo.
If you're interested in Moe and are looking to use his grip as one of your fundamentals, it makes sense to have a look at this club. You will get the exact feeling of the correct grip according to Moe, and it leaves nothing to interpretation.
With only being new to golf, I can categorically state that this will be only one of many things you will try out. Finding the combination of everything that works for you is a long task, so having a grip "shortcut" like this may help in the short term, certainly. It'll either suit you or it won't!
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Re: Feeling of Greatness?!?!?!
Neil,
Thank you very much for the reply I'm still debating if i can buy it at this time but we will see :-)Comment
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Re: Feeling of Greatness?!?!?!
I've never used the training aid you linked, so I can't comment on that, but I believe I can offer you some helpful information on training aids in general and if copying others swings can be helpful.Originally posted by nevinem View Post
The best training aids are the ones that help you with the fundimentals. From a grip standpoint I recommend Butch Harmon's right grip golf gloves, or a cheap (usually $2-$5) molded grip that you can attach to your clubs.
As far as copying others swings:
Jack Nicklaus said he copied parts of Bobby Jones and Ben Hogan's swings growing up.
Nick Price said he copied parts of Ben Hogan, Jack Nicklaus, and Gary Player's swings growing up (and his first instruction was Arnold Palmer audio recording).
Greg Norman grew up modeling his swing after Jack Nicklaus.
Nick Faldo grew up modeling his swing after Jack Nicklaus.
Ernie Els incorporated parts of Greg Norman's routine into his game.
Retief Goosen grew up modeling his swing after Greg Norman, Nick Faldo, and Seve.
Adam Scott, Tiger Woods, and Aaron Baddely modeled their swings after Greg Norman.
Trevor Immelman said he models his rhythm after Ernie Els, and power and agressiveness after Greg Norman's swing.
Charles Howell said he models his swing after Nick Faldo (and constantly watches video of Faldo from the early 90's).
The point is great players have modeled their swing after other great players. The key to copying the good players is to copy the things they do alike, not the things they do different. If you look at most tour players of today their swings aren't too different from the swings of Norman, Faldo, and Els. Especially in the way they setup. The posture of Norman, Faldo, Els, Goosen, Scott, Woods, Immelman, Baddely, Howell, Price, Appleby, Allenby, Elkington, Ogilvy, and many others aren't to different from one another. If you look at the grips of Faldo, Els, and Howell you'd likely find it difficult to tell them apart. All of the players listed above aim their clubfaces where they want the ball to finish, and (when they want to hit a straight shot) they align thier bodies (shoulders, hips, feet, and eyes) parallel to their ball to target lines.
Unless you are very overweight or have a physical limitation there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to setup like a pro.
There are some players I recommend you don't copy and they are Moe Norman, Lee Trevino, Raymond Floyd, Jim Furyk, and John Daly. Those swings don't fit with the way the human body is built, they require extensive practice to become consistant with, and finally you will not find successful tour players of today copying them.
Hopefully that information helps you in your persuit of greatness.
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^^ that is the best reply to any question I think I have ever gotten on a message board in my life ^^ Thank you very much for your time to answer with your opinion...I figure i can check ebay for the grip gloves ?Comment
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Re: Feeling of Greatness?!?!?!
It is true that Moe Normans swing was somewhat different from the tour professionals but that does not mean its not a good way to swing a club.
His was a one plane swing and many of it's parts are not that different from many other swings, it had few moving parts and did not rely on the club being manipulated by lifting and lowering the arms and complex differential movements between the lower and upper body. I wish I had learned it in my early golf days.
Don't be concerned whether Moe's swing was like Tiger or Ernie just make your mind up on what will be the best way for you to learn golf and go for it. If you wish to model your swing on someone who was probably the best ball striker ever then feel free. What ever you choose, I wish you well.
It may be worth registering on this site and looking at the video lessons:
http://moenormangolfacademy.org/Default.aspxComment
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