1 iron golfclubs

[Golfnla]

has anyone on here tried the 1 iron clubs one shaft length for all the irons?

[GoNavy]

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Your not going to get much of a yardage separation. The loft changes as well as the length change is what increases or decreases the yardage. I can put a 3 iron head on a 36" shaft that a normal wedge head is on, well hit maybe 20 yards further, because of the loft change. I assume you wish to use the easiest, shortest shaft to hit. You could put a wedge head on a 39" 3 iron shaft, but what you would get is a really high 180 yard shot, those are the extreme ends. Doing it to all the clubs and you get at around a 2-3 yard separation, as opposed to the 10-15 yards you should get between clubs. We won't even go into the lie specs, some one would have to make heads specifically to put on the same length shafts, which I don't think anybody does... Low Post builds a lot of clubs, he could probably tell you if some one does make these.

Or are you talking about that goofy club invented for travelers quite a few yards ago, with the adjustable head on it, changing the loft. LMAO...piece of junk, for the same reason as above, little or no distance separation.

[Golfnla]

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no i am talking about the 1 iron golf company go look at there web site, the testomonials are pretty good, he says why have to learn 100 swings when you can just learn one swing, the yardage is the same as a regular say 3 iron but with a 7 iron shaft, makes sense really.

[GoNavy]

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I don't have any experience with them, but this idea has been around for as long as I can remember. My opinion is...it's a gimmick. My limpness test for any of these new ideas, and I have said this before, how many pros are using it on tour. Because those guys are playing for some serious money, and they well, I promise you, use any advantage they can, too gain even the smallest edge, over their competition.

When graphite shafts, or metal headed drivers, or square groves too mention a few technologies first came out, the pro's were all over them, because they worked. By comparison, face forward design, bubble shafts and the like, no play on tour. So since this same length thing as been around awhile now, and is not being used by anybody I know of on tour, my guess, it is just a gimmick.

So keep an eye on the tour, if you see them using some thing, good bet there is a reason. Don't go by a commercial, lots of pro make commercials and don't come anywhere near using it for play. Go by what they actually use, you can go to PGA.com or many other sites and see what's in the bag of different pro's.

Just an addon: If there were any pro golfer using golf 1 equipment, I guaranty they would telling you about it, bragging about it..lol..but there is not.

[LowPost42]

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I've got a set in the garage, but haven't used them (prefering to exhaust my TLT options first).

Loft is the #1 determiner for length. Your driver goes further than your wedge because it's lower lofted, not because it's longer. The lofts in the 1 iron suite are tweaked to produce quite useable yardage gaps.

If you can get over the GI looking heads, Single Length is probably the most playable concept out there. One swing plane, one swing, every club. SL and TLT both achieve the same goal of putting you in a constant address position with a constant ball position.



The 'what are the guys on tour using' argument is bullshit. They've been approached by every con trying to hawk a product, method, or system. If that was the case, then 7 years ago everyone should have been still using blade irons and low lofted drivers. 'Cause guys on tour didn't hit thrivers, fairway woods lower than a 3, or carry a wedge more lofted than a 56. Give me a break. And let's not forget about the brands the pros are paid to use! But we'll forgive them for the paid part - it must simply be a bonus, because they actually really like using the equipment, right? I mean, the only reason Tiger switched from his Titleists when he signed with Nike was because Nike made a better iron - it has to be! If it were even close to true, then every pro on Tour would be using an SMT driver - it's the winningest driver in Long Drive history! Surely it's the longest driver on the planet then!

/soapbox

[bill reed]

Re: 1 iron golfclubs

hi Lowpost
if you were to shorten the one iron to say the shaft size of say a 5 iron shaft would you not lose distance in the same way i do when i move down the grip an inch to take off 15 yards of my 1 iron.
would the shorter the shaft not take off a few mph off your swing speed or is that more down to the weight of the heads. i was thinking that i cant swing my 5 iron as fast as i can my 1 iron.
do you have to de-loft the irons a little on a one size shafted set to re-adjust the distance gaps ????
cheers
bill

[GoNavy]

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Well that is your opinion Low Post, I am sure you are right and the Thousands of pro golfers are wrong. Of course they are playing professionally and you are paying to see them. I trust their judgment more then yours, thank you very much.

By the way, brand name is not the same as club specs or technology. No body used a sand wedge until Gene Sarazen invented it, then they tried to make it illegal because it worked so well. Now every one uses it, because it worked. They do change when things work.

Just an addon: If someone on tour starts using same length clubs and starts kicking Tigers ass all over the course, I bet it won't be long before Nike makes him a set..lol...and every other pro starts using them. That is what I mean, by watching the pro, for tech not brand. Since no body uses them, I don't see the merit, just my opinion.

[LowPost42]

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Bill, sweetspot contact means everything. If you shorten the club but stop hitting all over the face, you never see a difference. Now, if you've got a highly repeatable swing and your wear spot is dime sized, yes, loft for loft you'd see a little distance loss in the long irons and a little distance gain in the short irons (long and short being relative to a 'standard' set). But, you simply strengthen the long and weaken the short until you've got the yardage gaps you want - the same you do with any set of clubs.

GN, you're correct, it is my opinion. But the parallel to watching what the pros play is also "don't drive an import - you don't see them racing in NASCAR, do you? Only drive American!"

Pro's represent the top 1% of all golfers. Why would any golfer that WASN'T a plus handicap look to what the pros are playing to help their game? The most forgiving shovels on the planet aren't even in play on the Tour. Does this make them junk?

Your argument in a nutshell is that we should emulate the equipment choices of golfers with skill levels far above our own. Does this even make sense? The Tour is the last place you see golfers changing their equipment, or trying out new tech. So, really, they're behind technological advances mostly.

The better the golfer, the more able they are to play with any equipment.

Man! You've really touched a nerve here! LOL

[GoNavy]

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Hhmm...OK, I'll buy your argument on that level, but I still think if any game improvement was really good it will show up on tour some where, sooner or later...hybreds are showing up, perimeter weighting is catching on, big head driver, etc..my point being the tour weeds out junk, and I think they do use the latest tech, some of them big names like Tiger, and Phil are getting stuff way before we do..lol...but I don't think they play them in a tournament until they know if it helps.

[bill reed]

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hi Go Navy
last year tiger was playing clubs and balls that had not even been released on the market. prototype balls and clubs and i believe he had been involved in some of the research. i don't know if was just him trying out different club head and shafts on the range and then using what felt good on the course.
his irons and wedges are listed as Titleist forged muscleback prototypes. and last year he had a protatype ball but it now listed as a pro90.
cheers
bill

[ogallalabob]

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On this particular club, I think the premise is that it helps a golfer to memorize one swing. Now shortening the shaft has to cause some adjustments to distance.

When talking about tour players first I doubt if any of them play with right off the shelf specs. They just do not advertise all the adjustments made to their sets. Their sponsers do not want people to hear how much adjustments are made. Some tweak the loft on their clubs so a 4 iron is really almost a 3, some play longer shafts ....

Additionally, this technology is targeted at golfers so they can learn one swing, ball position.. The Tour golfers practice hours a day, play and then practice some more. They do not have a problem shifting from club to club. I doubt that their target audiance is competitive golfers it seems to me more like week end guys who have trouble hitting their long irons. Shorten the shaft, maybe lose a little distance but make better contact.

[ilang]

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I would imagine the more lofted clubs with longer shafts would produce less back-spin,yes???

[BrianW]

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Sounds like a pretty good idea to me. I think the average Joe would benefit from it.

[Golfnla]

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thanks for all the opinions i think for the struggling golfer these may be an option, the wedges would be really wierd, as for me i was flipping still do but i tried the motorcycle drill yesterday and wow what a difference didnt hit one ball right all day, as long as you get a good shoulder turn it seems to bring the club right down on plane.. shot 78 from the blue tees on water soaked course here in louisiana...

[ernie58]

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Motorcycle drill?????????whatszat???