Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

[redsox]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

I knew this would probably happen. Our discussion has gone to arms vs body swing. We are really not discussing the original thread. I think there are probably a few golfaholics who can discuss the Torre vs King swing.
I think this thread can continue for discussing the original thought.
I am going to start a new thread on arm swing vs body swing. I think when people see this title, we will have more people in the discussion. I would like to hear a variety of thoughts.
Thanks
redsox

[jbrunk]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

my thoughts on it is like a baseball player. does a pitcher throw with his arm or his body? he throws with his arm/hand. his body does move, but it supports the movement of the arm it doesn't make the arm move. and the legs support the body.

The power and speed come from the lower half in both baseball and golf. It is delivered to the arms and hands but it starts from the ground up.

[BrianW]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

The power and speed come from the lower half in both baseball and golf. It is delivered to the arms and hands but it starts from the ground up.

Maybe you can explain how that happens? Probably best in the new thread though.

[jbrunk]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

Maybe you can explain how that happens? Probably best in the new thread though.

It may take a minute to download, but go to minute 6:30 and it explains what happens to the body (and where the power comes from) when Jason Zuback hits a golf ball 400 yards.

[BrianW]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ito3BSO-St8


It may take a minute to download, but go to minute 6:30 and it explains what happens to the body (and where the power comes from) when Jason Zuback hits a golf ball 400 yards.

He can certainly muscle the club into the ball but his technique is designed to do only that. His type of swing would be completely useless to you or I playing on the course, I imagine the ball would hardly be out of the woods. Why is Jason not earning big money on the PGA tour?

I would question the theory of where power comes from.
look at this link for a contrary view:
http://www.scigolf.com/scigolf/myths/myth6.htm

[jbrunk]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

He can certainly muscle the club into the ball but his technique is designed to do only that. His type of swing would be completely useless to you or I playing on the course, I imagine the ball would hardly be out of the woods. Why is Jason not earning big money on the PGA tour?

I would question the theory of where power comes from.
look at this link for a contrary view:
http://www.scigolf.com/scigolf/myths/myth6.htm

I proved my point of where power and speed comes from. I did not say anything about direction. And I doubt the good professor has earned any big money on tour either.

[Golfcoach1]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

Could someone please discuss the difference in swing instruction between these two great instructors?
They both advocate using arms vs body to lead the swing.
Thanks

In de la Torre's own words:
Swing the clubhead back with the hands and swing the entire golf club forward with the arms from the beginning of the forward swing to the finish of the swing in one uninterrupted motion in the direction of the target.
De la Torre's approach is not "arms vs. body". He proposes that when it comes to the action of the arms and the body, they work in the golf swing just like they do in making a side-armed toss. The arm (the bone from the shoulder to the elbow) is responsible for the speed (and therefore the distance), the body responds to the swing of the arm.
His approach is very effective because it is both the simplest and the most grounded in principles of physics, psychology, and physiology.

[Golfcoach1]

Re: Manuel de la Torre vs Leslie King

In de la Torre's own words:
Swing the clubhead back with the hands and swing the entire golf club forward with the arms from the beginning of the forward swing to the finish of the swing in one uninterrupted motion in the direction of the target.
De la Torre's approach is not "arms vs. body". He proposes that when it comes to the action of the arms and the body, they work in the golf swing just like they do in making a side-armed toss. The arm (the bone from the shoulder to the elbow) is responsible for the speed (and therefore the distance), the body responds to the swing of the arm.
His approach is very effective because it is both the simplest and the most grounded in principles of physics, psychology, and physiology.