Hip bump causing huge slice

[nj21]

When I do the little hip bump to start the downswing, I always slice the ball big time. What causes me to slice the ball so much? If there are any drills to help me that would be great.

Thanks in advance

[cyc53870]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

How's your swing without the hip bump? Try experimenting.

[golfunderrepair]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

Try filming yourself from the back and check the club head at the top of the backswing (or most likely as you are starting your downswing) to see if you are over compensating somewhere for your hip movement.

Tim.

[BrianW]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

I would suggest using a bigger hip bump and make sure your shoulders stay turned and your arms are passive as you do it. This will stop you casting the club from the top.

[jbrunk]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

When I do the little hip bump to start the downswing, I always slice the ball big time. What causes me to slice the ball so much? If there are any drills to help me that would be great.

Thanks in advance

Do you slice it without the hip bump?

BTW, you slice it because your club face is too open. Fix your clubface.

[nj21]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

I don't slice the ball when I don't do the bump. But the problem with that is I'm not getting enough weight transferred to my front foot on the downswing.

[qassim]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

I don't slice the ball when I don't do the bump. But the problem with that is I'm not getting enough weight transferred to my front foot on the downswing.

My guess is that your 'hip bump' is too lateral - you are in effect sliding.

I would suggest that your 'hip bump' should be more of a rotational move. This will help to return the hip to the starting position at set up and should cure the problem.

[BrianW]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

My guess is that your 'hip bump' is too lateral - you are in effect sliding.

I would suggest that your 'hip bump' should be more of a rotational move. This will help to return the hip to the starting position at set up and should cure the problem.

I think he will only slide if he allows his head to get in front of the ball, this would promote a slice as he would go out to in with an open clubface.

As the hips are rotated to the rear in the backswing they will automatically start to unwind in the downswing if you move them forward and keep your head back, you cant stop them. This will lower the right shoulder and arms and drop the club to the inside.

[kbp]

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OP- I would guess that you are probably sliding through impact rather than turning through impact. Lateral movement (sliding) doesn’t square the club. Rotating movement (turning) squares the club face.

[nj21]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

How should I rotate the hips through impact? I always had trouble trying to turn just my hips.

[jambalaya]

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Shouldn't we start lower than the hips on our first move down. I think that is my problem. Should we instead think of starting the downswing with moving the left knee towards the target which in turn triggers the hip movement. I think I have a tendency, when thinking about a hip bump of getting the hip over the outside of the front leg which I think promotes an over the top move. I also think I have a tendency to slide when I try to move the hip first.

[golfunderrepair]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

I think the idea of moving the left knee toward the target would only further promote the idea of sliding back and forth, which creates all sorts of problems.

The stress on the inside of the left knee comes from acting as a pivot or support for the movement of the torso away from and back toward the target. The hips rotate naturally over the knees because the upper body is turning, doing the work.



Tim.

[BrianW]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

I just cannot agree that the downsing should be initiated by spinning the hips, this creates a fatal flaw that promotes poor ball striking.

In general slicers get their bodies ahead of the club and hookers get the club ahead of their bodies. A good swing synchronises the club and body.

OP. Please read the attached article thoroughly and you should learn how to rid yourself of that slice.

http://www.newgolfswing.com/newgolfswing07.php

[jambalaya]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

I just cannot agree that the downsing should be initiated by spinning the hips, this creates a fatal flaw that promotes poor ball striking.

In general slicers get their bodies ahead of the club and hookers get the club ahead of their bodies. A good swing synchronises the club and body.

OP. Please read the attached article thoroughly and you should learn how to rid yourself of that slice.

http://www.newgolfswing.com/newgolfswing07.php

Great article. It is describing perfectly all of the problems I am currently having with my swing. I am that doctor the article describes as one of the most persistent hitters from the top with whom they worked. I just have not been able to keep the right shoulder from turning out lately. I have had five range sessions in the last week and have hit consistent weak pulls and pushes. Like he described when I occasionly make decent but not great contact with the ball it starts right and nas a gentle slice into the fairway. But mostly I am pulling the hell out of the ball. That hip movement and connection is just a mystery to me. When I try it I have a really hard time with not letting the head come along too or I just start spinning too soon bringing the arms into play and disaster.

[kbp]

Re: Hip bump causing huge slice

Most of us are not a blank slate that we can superimpose the correct swing and the same swing thoughts and feelings. We have faults and tendencies and perceptions. If you are not turning enough, you may need to think "turn more". If you are spinning out, you may need to think "slide" or "bump".

To Jamb (or anyone), I would say set up on the ball in your desired IMPACT position. Move from there to the top of the backswing and then back down to impact. Back and forth. See how the parts move, where the weight is, the flexing of the joints along the way, that makes the move possible.

As a Band-Aid suggestion for "spinning out", make sure you have constant spine angle, and feel the weight move back to favor your right inner heel more than the toe or the ball of the foot and keep it there longer. See how the right knee flex and position of you right butt effect the pressure on your foot. See also how different weight distributions and right knee flexes at the top affect the type of movement that it is possible to make on the through swing. With too much weight on the ball of the foot or the outside of the fott and/or not enough flex you can really only make a spin out, around and over move. Set the weight back, and in, and flex the knee and you can move the hips laterally and/or roll the right ankle and/or kick the right knee laterally and/or drop the right side, come down and through rather than out and around, etc Consider the effect of the so called "squatting move" by the pros in the downswing.