Power Fade?

[acq111]

I want to learn how to hit a "good" power fade off the tee. I play to a 4 HC, and my irons are consistently solid, and my putting has been lights out this year after some hard work in the off season. I can hit a fade off the tee., but is there something more to the power fade besides gearing up a little?

Thanks in advance!

Nick

[GregJWillis]

Re: Power Fade?

Setup is: feet - hips - shoulders all aligned to the left side of the fairway, and the club face to the center. This is all you do different. Swing down your alignment.

Next is not turning over the club face...you have to hold on and through impact. The ball should start straight and at the apex of the flight fall back to the center.

If you are finding that the flight is too high and it curves to far the whole way, you have a swing path issue. It's hard sometimes to trust the alignment in your head, and the natural subconscious counter is to swing out-to-in to help the ball turn. The open face is enough to create the fade.

Then just turn through full and let it go.

[bill reed]

Re: Power Fade?

hi
as Greg said but i set the club face a few degrees to the left of the target.
when you swing into the ball its like a push shot and your wrists don't turn over and you try and keep the back of the left hand looking down the line you want the ball to start on longer. also i find a nice high finish helps too.
i find by adjusting how much the club face looks to the left of target will control the amount of fade you have.
its something you have to work on to find out just how much you open the stance and how much you set the club face closed.
if you set up with the club face looking at the target you often tend to try and close the face in the downswing so not to leave the face wide open. i find that by closing the face at address i don't ever come into the ball with a really open face.
also you must swing from inside to out. so the right elbow has to be close to your right hip.
i also think with the power fade you need a hip slid to get your weight on the right side.
if you practice slow and work up your swing speed you will soon get the hang of it and be able to adjust the amount of fade pretty well too.
its something you have to work at for a few weeks to get it but worth the effort.
best of luck
bill

[acq111]

Re: Power Fade?

Thanks for the info guys. Actually one question I failed to ask about wa swing path. You said the club still has to come inside out. Is that correct? Also, should I weaken the grip a little to prevent to the club from turning over. I do this when hittign a fade with my irons.

Check list:

setup slightly left of target.
Aim clubface where you want the ball to finish.
swing along the stance line, and trust the swing.
hold off the finish not letting the clubface turn over.
swing out of my shoes and knock down there a mile...LOL...

[bill reed]

Re: Power Fade?

hi
don't swing along the stance line. swing along the line you want to start the ball before it fades.
if you swing along the stance line you will swing out to in and you want an in to out swing.
think of pushing the back of your left hand down the target line.(target line being the line you want the ball to start out) your stance will be more open than the line you want to start the ball.
if you line your feet 20% to the left of the place where you want the ball to land, then you will swing down a line about 10% between where you want the ball to land and where your feet are lined up. that way the ball will start out about 10% left and then fade back in.
where you swing down the line that where the ball will start out and then depending on how open the club face is will vary the fade.
you might be better trying the swing with say a 7 iron and then working up to say a 5 to get the feel how the ball fades with an open stance.
if you set up 10% left and have the club face looking where you want the ball to land you will fade the ball twice as much as you want.
you really need to try and do it to see just what i mean.
but you swing down the line you want the ball to start so if you swing down the line of your feet you still have to get the hip out the way swinging down a line to the right of your feet gets the hip out the way and also get you swing from inside to out and will put you in the right swing plane time after time.
i use the Trevino system so i stand very open (about 40 degree's)
i would say if you want to just hit the odd fade then set up about 15% degrees to the left and swing the arms down a line of about 5 degrees to the left and that will give you about 10 yards of fade.
best of luck
bill

[golfunderrepair]

Re: Power Fade?

also i find a nice high finish helps too.

I set up (pretty much how Greg suggested) and swing to what I think my finish should "feel" like. I know it sounds vague but when I shape the ball (or hit one down the pipes for that matter) from the top of my downswing I'm aiming at finishing the swing to suit the shot.

I have the impression players get hung up on how to start the swing and not how to finish it.

Anyway good luck.

Tim.

[acq111]

Re: Power Fade?

I set up (pretty much how Greg suggested) and swing to what I think my finish should "feel" like. I know it sounds vague but when I shape the ball (or hit one down the pipes for that matter) from the top of my downswing I'm aiming at finishing the swing to suit the shot.

I have the impression players get hung up on how to start the swing and not how to finish it.

Anyway good luck.

Tim.

I 100% agree with you, and that is the way I approach my iron shots. Especially for trajectory. If I want to hit a fade with my irons I can do it at will. With the driver it's a little different for me for some reason. Maybe it's the club that's a little to closed. But I agree with focusing on the finish. I do the same... Good Point!

[cyc53870]

Re: Power Fade?

I can hit a fade off the tee., but is there something more to the power fade besides gearing up a little?

Is acq111 trying to get more distance?

[acq111]

Re: Power Fade?

Is acq111 trying to get more distance?

Maybe just a little. I'm averaging realistically about 280 carry of the tee. Thats with the draw I usually play. bit that can get away from me sometimes. When I hit the fade i usually do off the tee I lose about 40 yards. Just wondering what this power fade stuff is all about. To me power means distance which is always a bonus.. But the short answer to your question would be yes of course...LOL...

[GregJWillis]

Re: Power Fade?

A power fade does not turn very much...just a little at the end. It is a very controllable shot because as you said, a draw can get away from you.

It sounds like your 40 yard loss is a slice. This is where you are turning quite a bit.

The adjustments to the power fade are slight at the most. You are aiming down the side of the "fairway" and opening up the blade to face the center of the fairway. This could be a small as 1 degree. The interesting thing is that in your swing because you are setting up for a fade, and you are aware that the you need to hit a fade, that this takes the hook swing away...the flip, the roll over, the pull...that stuff that can get away from you. You now have a "hold on" thought that creates an extremely repeatable swing.

"Power" is the same as the normal full, straight shot. So don't think that you swing any harder.