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  • Mr S.Hank visited.

    I was at the range recently when the guy next to me started to hit spectacular S**nks, he was beside himself with frustration saying he was a 4 handicapper and could not stop it. It was contagious as I then hit around 5 on the trot myself.

    I grabbed a coffee sat down and thought about it for a bit, then recalled a good video that I have suggested to people before. Once I relived the fix in it Mr Hank cleared off.

    This is the video and comes highly recommended.

    http://www.ritson-sole.com/golf-tips...shank-no-more/

    Hope it can help some others.

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    Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

    the one thing i do, and i usually do this for 1/2 shots with SW, LW is i stand my feet close together with my forward foot facing out at 45degrees and my heels about 4 inches apart.

    you will be absolutely amazed how much power you can generate from this stance if you want to, just by letting the club do the work.

    the swing is an over exagerated putting style swing. or 1/2 swing to hip high with distance control set by the speed from this 1/2 swing coming down on the ball. grip is normal, but you want to stand over the ball a fraction more so you might want to choke down on the club an extra inch.

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    • #3
      Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

      Sorry Brian, you're a mate n'all but I just can't believe that story. How can Mr Hanks have been at your range when he's been stayig with me, by my side for two weeks now. and is sitting next to me now having just ruined a potential new PB at the 18th.

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      • #4
        Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

        The best cure for any bad shot in golf including the shanks is to understand what swing problem(s) causes a specific bad shot. Once you know the "why" part of bad shot, you will then have the knowlege for fixing that particular poor swing/impact issue. This knowlege comes in quite handy when you are on the course, and have no one else to ask. Also, by knowing the cause(s) of a poor swing/impact issue, you are more likely not to have them creep into your game when you least expect it. GJS

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        • #5
          Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

          When you hit a shank you have lagged the hosel of the club instead of the sweetspot. This IS THE reason for a shank. Every thing else just treats the symptom and not the cause. Until people understand this concept and what it means, they will never completely rid themselves of the problem.
          Last edited by jbrunk; 09-24-2008, 03:26 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

            Originally posted by jbrunk View Post
            When you hit a shank you have lagged the hosel of the club instead of the sweetspot. This IS THE reason for a shank. Every thing else just treats the symptom and not the cause. Until people understand this concept and what it means, they will never completely rid themselves of the problem.
            Good advice but not the problem in my particular example. Mr S.Hank can visit through a number of causes, one of them is what you suggest, another is where some have a problem with swinging the shaft at the ball, some let their weight get forward. Mine was coming from the outside in. The video I attached shows exactly what was happening and how to fix it.

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            • #7
              Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

              Originally posted by bdbl View Post
              Sorry Brian, you're a mate n'all but I just can't believe that story. How can Mr Hanks have been at your range when he's been stayig with me, by my side for two weeks now. and is sitting next to me now having just ruined a potential new PB at the 18th.
              He sure puts himself about a bit Robin

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              • #8
                Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                Originally posted by BrianW View Post
                He sure puts himself about a bit Robin
                I guess its the same way as Father Christmas manages to visit all the good children (oh dear I felt a Gary Glitter joke coming on there) on Christmas Eve with their surprises.

                Apparantly in some wierd branch of theoretical physics Santa's trip
                is actually technically possible; there was a long article in the Sunday Times a few years back (of which I understood 1 word in 10) explaining how it works.

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                • #9
                  Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                  Originally posted by BrianW View Post
                  Good advice but not the problem in my particular example. Mr S.Hank can visit through a number of causes, one of them is what you suggest, another is where some have a problem with swinging the shaft at the ball, some let their weight get forward. Mine was coming from the outside in. The video I attached shows exactly what was happening and how to fix it.

                  IMO, you were coming from the outside in because you were lagging the hosel (probably because your clubface was too open on the way down on that particular swing). That is the emphasis of my point of why lagging the hosel is the cause of EVERY shank. I feel that the lack of this knowledge holds people back from the improvement they could have.

                  We will have to disagree on this one.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                    Originally posted by jbrunk View Post
                    IMO, you were coming from the outside in because you were lagging the hosel (probably because your clubface was too open on the way down on that particular swing). That is the emphasis of my point of why lagging the hosel is the cause of EVERY shank. I feel that the lack of this knowledge holds people back from the improvement they could have.

                    We will have to disagree on this one.
                    I was coming from the outside because I was turning my right shoulder level as to dropping it down and under (Just like in the video). I don't need to have an open clubface to shank the ball, all I need to do is get it further away than it was at address.

                    Yes, we probably do disagree but that's no problem

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                    • #11
                      Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                      Perhaps this info from the book "The Nine Bad Shots Of Golf....." will help.

                      “Shank Causes by : Jim Dante, Leo Diegel, and Len Elliott"

                      "A highly exaggerated out side in swing, coupled with a very little (restricted) pivot , little if any shoulder turn, a pronounced throw from the top, poor weight distribution, and very loose, quick wrist action. Not much else could go wrong with the shanker’s golf swing. Also most all chronic shankers will start pulling the ball before they actually shank it. The shanks tend to happen more often to the better player.

                      Two swings can, and will cause a shank. One is when the player starts back more, or less to the inside with a quick break of the wrists. Then, with a restricted pivot, the player throws the club from the top to the out side of the ball target line. The other swing is one that starts back from the ball on the outside , and is accompanied by a quick throw from the top.

                      A cure for the shanks will consist of a one piece take away, good weight transfer, keeping the lead arm some what straight (not rigid), turning the shoulders up to 90degrees, and keeping the trailing wrist under the shaft at the top. “

                      This info should not be considered an "end all, cure all" for this bad shot, but those guys knew their stuff back in their day. The only thing I would add to the cure is to also concentrate on a "one piece" down swing. Also, if you are shanking chip shots, then you are just not paying attention (mental issue) to what you are doing, since that swing/stroke is so short to begin with. Use it with a grain of salt. GJS

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                      • #12
                        Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                        Originally posted by jbrunk View Post
                        IMO, you were coming from the outside in because you were lagging the hosel (probably because your clubface was too open on the way down on that particular swing). That is the emphasis of my point of why lagging the hosel is the cause of EVERY shank. I feel that the lack of this knowledge holds people back from the improvement they could have.

                        We will have to disagree on this one.
                        I was coming from the outside because I was turning my right shoulder level as to dropping it down and under (Just like in the video). I don't need to have an open clubface to shank the ball, all I need to do is get it further away than it was at address.

                        Yes, we probably do disagree but that's no problem

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                        • #13
                          Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                          Originally posted by BrianW View Post
                          I was coming from the outside because I was turning my right shoulder level as to dropping it down and under (Just like in the video). I don't need to have an open clubface to shank the ball, all I need to do is get it further away than it was at address.

                          Yes, we probably do disagree but that's no problem

                          I heard you the first time!





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                          • #14
                            Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                            Originally posted by jbrunk View Post
                            I heard you the first time!





                            I give up mate.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Mr S.Hank visited.

                              Originally posted by BrianW View Post
                              I give up mate.

                              Your same repoonse to my point posted twice. I was just needling you a bit.

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