flight of irons

[mattney]

Re: flight of irons

the reason id say its a grip fault is cause hes obviously adding loft to the clubface if hes hitting it high and its only goin 90 yards i think the only way i could hit a 7 iron in that way is through weakening my grip id find it impossible to do it any other way

[LowPost42]

Re: flight of irons

the reason id say its a grip fault is cause hes obviously adding loft to the clubface if hes hitting it high and its only goin 90 yards i think the only way i could hit a 7 iron in that way is through weakening my grip id find it impossible to do it any other way

Thank you sir. It's my experience, however, that changing your grip from strong to weak doesn't effect trajectory or distance, I find it more effects lateral ball movement.

[mattney]

Re: flight of irons

My iron shots are high and short. I dont take divots and cant figure out how to hit down on my irons. Any help on how and why this is.

im sure this is a grip problem cause to hit a 7 iron 90 yards and high would be id say impossible with a proper grip or even a strong grip the only way i could do this mysef would be using a weak grip

[BrianW]

Re: flight of irons

I would suggest the problem is twofold:

Arriving at impact with the shaft upright or slightly leaning backwards.

Raising the spine angle in the downswing (lifting up). This will assist to create the upright shaft and will stop you making divots because the club is being lifted up.

[mattney]

Re: flight of irons

Thank you sir. It's my experience, however, that changing your grip from strong to weak doesn't effect trajectory or distance, I find it more effects lateral ball movement.

im not too sure what u mean by lateral ball movement

[LowPost42]

Re: flight of irons

im not too sure what u mean by lateral ball movement

lateral ball movement = fade/slice & hook/draw

IOW, you strengthen your grip to corrrect for fades and weaken it to correct for draws (your grip effects how you release the club to a degree).

Now for the same swing and ball position a draw is naturally lower and longer than a straight shot, and a fade is higher and shorter due to the face angle in relation to swing path.


It just occured to me that the OP could be playing a massive face-wide-open block...

[rotator]

Re: flight of irons

My iron shots are high and short. I dont take divots and cant figure out how to hit down on my irons. Any help on how and why this is.

The OP does not mention a flight of the ball off line away, which may be a block or a slice.

No divots and something in the swing does not allow the taking of divots. Hanging back?

High and short obviously indicates a weak strike. I tend to agree that whatever the cause in the swing, the club position must be as Brian says:- Arriving at impact with the shaft upright or slightly leaning backwards.


Perhaps, it's as simple as the backswing being a lift of the arms with little shoulder turn, little weight shift back, straight trailing elbow bend, little wrist cock; and the downswing being basically an arm swing. i.e. no buildup of power and no forward shift of weight to get the backward leaning shaft at impact.

If the OP could explain if he has any similar problems with his driver, it may shed a light.

Ted

[LowPost42]

Re: flight of irons

Ted, I'm arguing against grip being the error here. It may be a compounding factor, but I highly doubt it as being the primary cause.

The flip with a hang back is much more likely - assuming the OP is still around to follow their thread!

[rotator]

Re: flight of irons

Ted, I'm arguing against grip being the error here. It may be a compounding factor, but I highly doubt it as being the primary cause.

The flip with a hang back is much more likely - assuming the OP is still around to follow their thread!

LowPost42,

I'm not arguing or even talking about the grip issue at all, if you read my post again. From the beginning of your discussion on that point with Mattney, I was totally with you. I did not want to step in, as you made the point. I don't know how you got the idea I was out of step with you.

I believe you, Brian and I have the same idea it has to do with shaft angle at impact, but we do not know the reason for this, unless the OP provides some feedback.

Ted

[LowPost42]

Re: flight of irons

Sorry Ted, I'm (im)famous for completely misreading a post.

[rotator]

Re: flight of irons

That's OK, LowPost42.

So you know, I agree with 99.999999% of what you have to say on this forum. You just have to work on that other 0.0000001%.

Ted

[mattney]

Re: flight of irons

to tell u the truth as im sure uve heard the golf swing is a chain reaction and as they said u could be hanging back but if uve got a weak grip and u didnt hang back and transfered ure weight properly ud probably hit the ball a mile right coz the open face so say u have a weak grip u have to hang back then when u do ure flipping also and the shaft angle is too verticle so one thing leads to another so we all have a point.