My Swing A few Months ago

[Ringer]

I am curious to hear everyone's input.

http://www.swingacademy.com/videoPlayer.aspx?id=4609

Feel free to post here or do an analysis on swingacademy.

My misses are usually to the right with a fade but still quite long.

[GregJWillis]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

Rock solid swing. If you are looking for something (as I click frame/frame on the down-the-line view) I see the slightest hitch at the very top when you transition down...you go just a touch outside. And this may...just may...be a cause for a slight out-to-in path tendency. You probably fight this with some closing of the hands down (hooding) and this will straighten you out, but your misses will be the short rights...and under pressure you will get the pull hooks.

Everything else looks (in what the details of this video can show) good.

[Ringer]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

Spot on. It is the one major flaw which I am fighting. The question is, how to fix. I am not your typical "all shoulder" forward swinger. I have a huge hip action which means I don't fit the mold for resolving.

[BrianW]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

Nice tempo Ringer.

I think your tendency to push and fade are due to your hip action and steep downswing. In your downswing your right hip is overactive and pushing out, this is trapping your right elbow behind it and getting you stuck. This results in an over steep downswing and a the clubface being held slightly open at impact.

Try and keep your right buttock held back at the transition, make a small left hip bump then turn the left hip back so that you leave room for the right elbow to clear the right hip.

This video should help you understand this:

[Ringer]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

Nice tempo Ringer.

I think your tendency to push and fade are due to your hip action and steep downswing. In your downswing your right hip is overactive and pushing out, this is trapping your right elbow behind it and getting you stuck. This results in an over steep downswing and a the clubface being held slightly open at impact.

Try and keep your right buttock held back at the transition, make a small left hip bump then turn the left hip back so that you leave room for the right elbow to clear the right hip.

This video should help you understand this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNwSfz0_KDM

You don't think my hips have "bumped"?



FYI, my right hip is in the exact same spot here as it was at setup. I just don't think I'm seeing what you're seeing. I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't see it.

[BrianW]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

At frame 110 your right hip has pushed forward, your right elbow is trapped and the club is very steep for the half way down position, it should be almost parallel with your right forearm at this point. You have no option but come from the outside.

Look at how Sergio does it.

[GregJWillis]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

Spot on. It is the one major flaw which I am fighting. The question is, how to fix. I am not your typical "all shoulder" forward swinger. I have a huge hip action which means I don't fit the mold for resolving.

Hitches are hard to break. You just do them without knowing it and it is just so natural. Having anyone suggest a change is going to be detrimental early on...you will try it, it may fix something but 3 other things you were doing right will break along the way. Then you have to go back and try to fix those. Only to revert back to your hitch or comfort swing.

With this disclaimer in mind: the only thing I am willing to suggest is to practice your swing @ 75% for the next 500 balls. Really, 75%...it will drive you nuts to only see the ball go 125 with your 8i...or only 230 with your driver. But what you will get done is the seating the feeling that you do not need to add the extra move at the top. That all you have to do is turn back and transition back down "with ease". This is the key I am thinking will help you get this sorted with the least damage.

You just might find that you are reducing the power in your head and after 500 or so you start to gain some distance back...don't be surprised. You can play with this idea and only tack on another 5 or 10% more to get back to your normal distances.

[Ringer]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

At frame 110 your right hip has pushed forward, your right elbow is trapped and the club is very steep for the half way down position, it should be almost parallel with your right forearm at this point. You have no option but come from the outside.

Look at how Sergio does it.

I think this is a wonderful point of discussion. Again I'm not stating you are wrong, I just have a different opinion. I will, however try what you are suggesting to see if it resolves anything.

I would point out though that the "hips" are no different between Sergio and I. My fram 110 and Sergio's fram 5 look the SAME with the lower body. However the UPPER body is very different. His shoulders are very closed and his hands are well behind him. NO ONE goes as far back as Sergio and in fact I have seen him hit a few quackers in tournaments.

Tiger is similar here.

at :38. Shoulders are still very closed and hands well back. But I would argue my hips are the same.

In essence my shoulders have caught up to my hips well before they do. That I think is my main problem. But I do not think the "hips" are the cause.

[BrianW]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

I just think you are getting trapped and coming down too steep, you then cannot get inside enough, this probably creates your push and and open clubface. You need to get the club down into the slot much earlier so that you can get more on an inside path into impact.

[Lazyjay]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

You pushed in the way to catch the impact and the fact that you can make a good option for the position of your shoulder is nice. It is good for your hips to be balanced. This is a good practice when on game.

[Ringer]

Re: My Swing A few Months ago

You might be to pushed in the way to catch the impact and the fact that you can make a good option for the position of your shoulder. It is good for your hip to have a balance.

I'm sorry, that totally confused me.