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  • #16
    Re: Tips or help needed pls.

    Originally posted by rogue View Post
    http://trackman.dk/getmedia/e388effb-...uary-2010.aspx

    read page 7 from 14, clearly stating that the average male tour pro with a swing speed of 114mph hits -1.3 degree down on the ball (ok i was a little off but still shows they hit down on ball).

    Now explain to me, with your superior grasp of physics....
    how does hitting down on a ball guarantee a slice.
    Or you could just remain silent
    BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG.

    Even if you dont reply to this post other people are going to see through your bull. I have just stuck to the stats and relayed correct information rather than listened to your old wives tales. Its a shame, you actually seem intelligent. Yet it seem that you are the one who is being bull headed with incorrect information just to be obstructive and obstinent.
    My experience is that a + angle of attach creates less ball spin and greater carry distance. Hitting with a - angle of attack creates a lower ball flight with more spin thus reducing carry. To optimise distance with a negative AOA you will need more loft on your driver which will again make more spin.

    Here is an interesting article from Tom Wishon (Who knows a bit about club design) on the effects of + and -attack angles.

    http://www.iseekgolf.com/clubfittinga...ole-in-fitting
    Last edited by BrianW; 08-24-2010, 08:14 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: Tips or help needed pls.

      Originally posted by BrianW View Post
      My experience is that a + angle of attach creates less ball spin and greater carry distance. Hitting with a - angle of attack creates a lower ball flight with more spin thus reducing carry. To optimise distance with a negative AOA you will need more loft on your driver which will again make more spin.

      Here is an interesting article from Tom Wishon (Who knows a bit about club design) on the effects of + and -attack angles.

      http://www.iseekgolf.com/clubfittinga...ole-in-fitting

      Spot on Brian. A positive attack angle will optimise distance carried. Apparently accoridng to trackman stats again - hitting down on a ball does not change the spin rate (crazy i know but hwy argue with the stats). They put this down to things not being in isolation. When you hit more down on a ball it is usually accompanied by a lower loft also.

      But this guy we are speaking of hits his 3 wood 280 so he prob has the same speed as most tour pros so may benefit from a slightly doownward angle of attack (apparently Tiger is as much as -7 degrees along with sergio, charles howell and others). Sounds like this guy needs accuracy not distance optimisation. I was just trying to get rid of old myths that you MUST hit up on a driver and that hitting down causes a slice.
      Last edited by rogue; 08-25-2010, 03:28 PM.

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      • #18
        Re: Tips or help needed pls.

        Originally posted by rogue View Post
        Spot on Brian. A positive attack angle will optimise distance carried. Apparently accoridng to trackman stats again - hitting down on a ball does not change the spin rate (crazy i know but hwy argue with the stats). They put this down to things not being in isolation. When you hit more down on a ball it is usually accompanied by a lower loft also.

        But this guy we are speaking of hits his 3 wood 280 so he prob has the same speed as most tour pros so may benefit from a slightly doownward angle of attack (apparently Tiger is as much as -7 degrees along with sergio, charles howell and others). Sounds like this guy needs accuracy not distance optimisation. I was just trying to get rid of old myths that you MUST hit down on a driver and that hitting down causes a slice.
        I dont wish to be rude to the OP but I tend not to believe such driving distances. I know they are possible but normally only with someone possessing a technically excellent golf swing. Most people can create high swing speeds but without good swing dynamics it normally produces wayward shots. You cannot set your personal benchmark on a single shot that was downhill into a rock hard fairway, the wind howling behind that just managed to come out of the screws for a change.

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        • #19
          Re: Tips or help needed pls.

          Originally posted by BrianW View Post
          I dont wish to be rude to the OP but I tend not to believe such driving distances. I know they are possible but normally only with someone possessing a technically excellent golf swing. Most people can create high swing speeds but without good swing dynamics it normally produces wayward shots. You cannot set your personal benchmark on a single shot that was downhill into a rock hard fairway, the wind howling behind that just managed to come out of the screws for a change.
          True. Although its not going to do him any harm to hit down on the ball a little even if his speed is only 100mph. Im not advocating it, just saying its not harmful unless max distance is his goal

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          • #20
            Re: Tips or help needed pls.

            People are getting carried away with the distance this is the summer with hard fairways and loads of run this is not carry distance iv often drove it on a 350 yard par 4 off the tee in d summer.
            The problem is not lenght off the tee because I have that the problem is the way it's coming out of the face with the driver because the driver used to be my strongest club. Which I tink is because I'm hitting the driver from the middle of the stance and not clearing my body.

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            • #21
              Re: Tips or help needed pls.

              Come on now guys! Please agree to disagree on the golf issues and drop the name calling. If you cant say anything nice then it's better to say nothing sometimes.

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              • #22
                Re: Tips or help needed pls.

                Listen m8 if you try this 1 thing then it might help ur slice, i was out playing on sunday with my m8 and he has a really terrible slice which he sometimes slices out of bounds so what i did was watch him head on at address and he had his hands open at impact so i asked him to close hands at impact and this has sorted his slice and he is hitting the ball really long.
                If you try this and the ball pulls or hooks then it means you are closing the hands to much at impact so you will need to find the right balance ie hands not too open or not to closed at impact.
                Please persevere with this and let me know how you get on, im not saying this is going to sort everyone's slice due to different swing paths etc but you could try it anyway and please let me know how you get on.

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