Super fast hips

[TPslicer]

http://.youtube.com/index?client=mv-...?v=aj_xKmZfUPII've been play golf for quite a long time now and have built a very fast hip rotation. It doesn't help that I am also very flexible, because of this my hips are fully open at or even before impact. I generate a lot of speed doing this 115-120 SS but I feel like I have no power. My smash factor is horrible as well, with my driver im lucky to get 1.40 most of the time it 1.35. Not sure if it is because of the shaft (stiff maybe need x) or what. Please help im just going crazy not knowing how to swing the club down anything would help thanks I'll try to upload pics but I'm not sure how to using my Iswing app

[TPslicer]

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These two are of me Dropping my hands into the slot

And these two I'm just rotating my hips

[TPslicer]

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Hips only

Dropping hands into slot

[TPslicer]

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[TPslicer]

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i tryed to incorporate what you where saying, i havent hit any balls but got a chance to video tape my swing whyll i was at work today. i was confused if u wanted me to keep my hand behind me and flatten the shaft on the way down, or just flatten the saft on the way down so it would be behind me, i just dont want to get in the stuck position. thanks again! sorry if im being a little annoying asking a lot of questions you just saying it looks like a quick fix kinda made me really itching to fiqure this out thanks for all your help and i read the slot artical very nice and educational, thanks again

[kbp]

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OP -Your problem is a hip stall/block. First video called "Iswing", DTL, you can see the hip rotation come to a stop before you get to the ball and then restart after impact. Please note also that your tailbone moves toward the ball quite a bit, off the so called "tush line". You look hunched over a bit and the weight looks like its out toward your toes in the downswing.

Second video called "Iswing 2 front view", if you can stop it when your shoulders first face directly at the target after impact, you will see that your hips are quite a bit short of facing the target. Then if you go to the end of the video, you will see the hips finish rotating, trailing the shoulder rotation to the finish. Please note how far forward your head and upper body have moved toward the target from start to finish.

Someone may trot out the old "kinetic chain"mumbo jumbo but, IMO, you do not want your hips to stop and restart in the middle of the downswing. You are locked up before impact. You also don’t want to jut the hips out at the ball. You are blocked from the ball.

The cause here is that you are turning your right hip out toward ball from the top and pivoting around a basically static left hip. IOW, you rotate back around your tailbone, which moves the right hip back away from the ball and the left hip forward toward the ball, DTL. No problem there, but then you rotate though AROUND this "forward" left hip, which makes the right hip move even MORE out to the ball.

The fix is to move the right hip down and AT (or behind) the left hip from the top, not out and around it. Some people call it a "hip bump" to the left. I prefer to think of it as a "side bend" because the key is to compress you right side or "get shorter" on the right side. This will keep you on the tush line and allow your right side to "fit" through the impact area, keeping room for the hands, and keeping your spine angle to the ball. When the limits of the "bump" are reached, the hips go into rotation to finish.

At address DTL we show our (relatively) thin profile. As we turn 90 degrees, our profile is much wider. Because we are bent at the hips, we need to "fit" the right side of our "wide" pelvis between the tailbone and the ball while maintaining our forward inclination (spine angle). We do this by moving the hips toward the target, past the impact area, and then by "shortening" the right side to "fit" through.

Keys... .keep the natural curvature of the lower spine. Don’t "push" off the right foot at the top. Compress the muscles of the right side and right back and not the front abs. Don’t let the top of the spine drift forward. Side bend.

Setup at address. From address, compress the right side and right back as much as you can. Notice the hips move to the target AND open up while the butt stays away from the ball and the spine angle is maintained. That is the action.

[TPslicer]

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Dear go low

Yes I have. noticed my right heel lifts up kinda of early in my downswing but I never put to much thought into it really, I thought it was just because of my fast rotating lower body. Concerning my upper body my main goal is not to come over the top, so basiccly I dont use my upper body what so ever. The reason being, when I do I seem to pull the ball. But what u are say Go low does make a lot of sense I will try everything u are saying to day at the range. So you are say to feel more anchored to the ground and feel like I am pulling something instead of just rotating? Am I on the right track? I will also work slotting the club to thanks.

[kbp]

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I will politely disagree with GoLow in that I do not think the OP’s stall/block is completely a result of his initial upper body action and his intended release pattern. IMO, he is forced to swivel release because his body stalls before it can square the club. I don’t think flattening the shaft and lagging the hands, etc., in and of itself, is going to fix the OP’s lower body action. By the OP’s own admission, he has no affirmative intentions with his upper body, but is attempting to allow it to respond to the lower.

Without taking anything away from GoLow’s very valid suggestions, I recommend the OP get his foundation in order (the lower body) before he remodels his house (the upper body). I see no advantage in having the shoulder rotation overtake the hip rotation before impact. I understand GL’s explanation of it in Rory, himself and the OP, but I would be trying to fix it rather than emulate it. I also believe you can easily swivel release without a premature stall.

Speaking of "early" right heel lift, it is not in and of itself bad. Pulling it off by throwing the right hip at the ball IS bad. Check out the footwork on this well known ball crusher.

[kbp]

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I’m terribly sorry if I misrepresented your thoughts.

Please see my first post for my thoughts on fixing the lower body. By shear necessity of balance and placing the club on the ball, the upper body will, of course, have to respond.

I think your "deep slotting" type of swing is an excellent way to hit a golf ball. Excellent. I also think there are other actions that are valid. I think the OP is closer to a basic on-plane "swinging" (or even "throwing") action. "Deep slotting" or "dragging the mop" is a lot different animal, by design, IMO. Going after the ball hard without fear of hooking. A lot of muscular effort.... "hitting".... Hogan and others.


I would like to see how the OP interprets and implements my VERY, VERY general description of lower body action. I would like to see what he looks like with his current action sitting on top of HIS version of a lower body that is off the toes, not falling forward, not crowding the ball and not stalling.

[TPslicer]

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I'm in class now and this I all I had time to upload I will try to get the dtl view as soon as possible. One thing I did find out why'll at the range was my shoulder and hips spin out when I set up to the ball (ott) but if there is not a ball there I swing very nice, so not forcing but slowing the rotation of my shoulders not think about my lower body and all I'm doing is flat inning the club shaft I stay on plane right heel stay on the ground until much later in the swing. Feels the same but the result is night and day I'll up load the videos to YouTube but I want to get the frame my frame pics on the facebook page I made I only have front view upload now I'll try dtl tomorrow

[TPslicer]

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First one is with out a ball an try slow my shoulders down but not forcing them

This one is basically the same but with a ball and not think of slowing my shoulder rotation from the top

[dagoos]

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there is nothing wrong with fast hips ,,,,,however you lose your load on the backswing because you let ur rigth leg lose its bend,and it sways lateral,,,,,try and swing with your right knee not moving at all on the back swing and your will feel a true load, ,,,,cuz if you slide on the way back ,,,you slide on the way through ,,,,,if you rotate on the way back ,,,,,,,you rotate on the way through