Swing Plane still

[RichieWinch]

Posted the pictures last week and got the drills to fix my flat swing plane. I've been doing these drills and filming them / looking in a mirror and my swing plane looks really really good . Then when i swing and increase my pace it goes back to a mush more shallow swing plane with the arms being exactly the same place as in the drills.

Should i try and now swing with a much slower backswing and concentrate on getting it on plane or keep the same tempo and keep working on it. The wrists seem to bend meaning i let the cub go flat, would consciencly keeping them rigid til my arms are high help?

Thanks Rich

[Mr_Change]

Re: Swing Plane still

Richie, I have slowed my backswing to keep it on plane, but still use everything to complete my downswing.

[TeachingPro]

Re: Swing Plane still

Richie,

Your problem is this: when you practice a drill to make a swing change, it is much slower and deliberate. Same when you swing slower than normal, your brain gets time to recall the list of things it has to execute ...

When you swing fast again, becuase you have not moved the muscle memory from 'shallow memory' (i.e. the brain has to phyiscally control each movement) to 'recall' memory (i.e. the brain knows the sequence), your brain automatically goes back to whatever it last remembers and what it has stored without having to be deliberate becuase it doesn't have the time.

Like learning to walk or write - it takes a long time, especially if it is 1 hour at a time or 5 minutes here and there. If you write slowly, you can write neatly becuase your brain has time to execute but if you rush ... you don't give your brain time to execute and you write unneatly - same thing.

You need to perservere much longer to give your brain and muscles a chance to learn the new movement, procedure and ingrain it in 'recall' memory. As a guide, 4-6 weeks of regular practice, not just 1 or 2 practice sessions I'm afraid.

[Cliff]

Re: Swing Plane still

You don't hit a golf ball on your backswing, so why swing it fast?

Enjoy the swing and the coil and then when your fully wound up enjoy the strike and try to keep that ball on the club face as long as you can, not just a fleeting moment. as the wife would say!!

Retain the angles in the wrist through impact if you can. But you can't that's a fact of life, but the feeling of retaining the angle while gravity takes over is the way to go. Don't try to hit the ball, just let the ball get in the way of the club face while you stay online as long as possible through the shot.

Slow and low was a good saying. Who was that then?

[gord962]

Re: Swing Plane still

I completely agree with Cliff. The major purpose of the backswing is to get your weight on your right side, build coil and get your club in the correct position at the top. Increasing the speed of your backswing will not make any one of these any better nor will it help you hit the ball farther.

[RichieWinch]

Re: Swing Plane still

Thanks i've slowed it down, should i then when i get to the top, start the downswing purposely with my hips.

My Irons are going dead straight or a little push (3 metres max) and the 5 and 3 wood are fine but the driver is SHOCKING.

Same distance but big curvy puch and slice. I can feel i'm coming from the outside, why's it different to al the over clubs when it feels like i'm swinging the same??

[LowPost42]

Re: Swing Plane still

Are you trying to kill your driver? How's your grip compared to the other clubs?

[Cliff]

Re: Swing Plane still

RichieWinch

When you hit the Driver do you have a nice follow through or is it a bit short, ie punchie?

The slower you hit the driver the better you will be at keeping on line. Remember the point of impact is short but the follow through down the line is as long as you can make it without moving off the ballanced finish.

Try and retain a good rythum and structure. We all like to belt the driver, but E Else is so sweet at hitting a long way with no effort. That swing is one to copy regarding pace and timing.

Think of the Driver as you would your 5 wood and swing it easy to enjoy a crisp impact.

You could try griping down the shalf to match the 5 wood, many pro's do that and its a great feeling of control... try that and see what happens?

Also try and check were your right elbow is just prior to impact, I find that if it's pointing at your right hip, I will controll the club much better through impact and beyond.
From time to time we all let it rip, and at some point we fly the right elbow out and boom duck hook or big slice.. Good fun an't it!!