right hand drill

[bahamaman]

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where's the Greg Hutton drill? New Member.

[golfndawg]

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where's the Greg Hutton drill? New Member.

Actually it is Greg J Willis, Not Greg Hutton

Anyway here it is
Golf Lessons - GregJWillis

[bahamaman]

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My instuctor told me the other day that I had everything going for me in my swing except for releasing my wrist too soon. I saw the right hand drill on this forum and it explained the physics behind the release. What I have found is that the problem I'm having is trying to coordinate releasing and fully extending the right ELBOW prior tp the release off the wrist since both hinges are attaches to the same appendage. Too often I release both the right elbow and right wrist at the same time. Any feedback on this one?

[golfndawg]

Re: right hand drill

My instuctor told me the other day that I had everything going for me in my swing except for releasing my wrist too soon. I saw the right hand drill on this forum and it explained the physics behind the release. What I have found is that the problem I'm having is trying to coordinate releasing and fully extending the right ELBOW prior tp the release off the wrist since both hinges are attaches to the same appendage. Too often I release both the right elbow and right wrist at the same time. Any feedback on this one?

Hmmm. Just a few cents here, but, don't do that.lol......If you rotate the body through, shouldn't be any need to release "things"early.

[bahamaman]

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Is there a way to post a video of my swing on this forum? I would like to have it critic'd. I'm a 16 handcapper. Playing for 2 years.

[GregJWillis]

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Goto the GALERY link and there should be UPLOAD PHOTOS link. That should allow you to load video file.

Or use PUTFILE or YOUTUBE and ref a link back to it.

[joeyg565]

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On a scale of 1-10, 1 being when you hold the club at address, someone can start to pull it out of your hands, and 10 being blood starts to trickle down the shaft from your fingernails digging into you hands...then you want it to be a 2.

I'm facinated with your right hand drill and I'm experimenting it. I think I get it If I'm doing it slow together with your impact position (facing the door drill).

But what next after impact? You mentioned about swatting. I don't quite get it. Are you advacating swatting? or let the clubface square all through the swing?

How about the mini rotation after impact, power move as what AJ Bonar would call it?

Does this power move be applied with your swing system?

Thanks.

Joeyg565

[LowPost42]

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I'm facinated with your right hand drill and I'm experimenting it. I think I get it If I'm doing it slow together with your impact position (facing the door drill).

But what next after impact? You mentioned about swatting. I don't quite get it. Are you advacating swatting? or let the clubface square all through the swing?

How about the mini rotation after impact, power move as what AJ Bonar would call it?

Does this power move be applied with your swing system?

Thanks.

Joeyg565

IIRC, Bonar's a swatter - he relies heavily on hand timing to get the clubface back to square. Greg is NOT an advocate of swatting - he warns against it (swat early, get hook. Swat late, get slice).

IMO, what happens after impact is almost irrelevant. If your impact position is good, then your ballflight will be good.

[BrianW]

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IIRC, Bonar's a swatter - he relies heavily on hand timing to get the clubface back to square. Greg is NOT an advocate of swatting - he warns against it (swat early, get hook. Swat late, get slice).

IMO, what happens after impact is almost irrelevant. If your impact position is good, then your ballflight will be good.

I regard swatting as hinging the wrists back and forward (Flipping them at the ball) rather than rotating the wrists as A.J. promotes. Most leading players use rotation of the forearms and wrists to create a late hit and use lag. To achieve Skill 3 in 3 skills you need to do it as well (although only by implication)

[joeyg565]

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I regard swatting as hinging the wrists back and forward (Flipping them at the ball) rather than rotating the wrists as A.J. promotes. Most leading players use rotation of the forearms and wrists to create a late hit and use lag. To achieve Skill 3 in 3 skills you need to do it as well (although only by implication)

Okay. Swatting is out.

According to Lowpost, after impact is "irrelevant". What? Create your own free style of follow through swing? I'm sure there is some relevancy after impact that's why we have a follow through swing (post impact swing).

Should I use the power move (AJ Bonar) or the square face all through the swing (I believe Hal Sutton uses this swing. Correct me If I'm wrong).

Or may be it doesn't matter. Just pick one and work with it.

Any thoughts?

Joeyg565

[Neil18]

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Hello all!

I understand that we don't hit the ball on the follow through so it has no bearing in and of itself as to what happens to the ball, but I am a firm believer that the way we swing into impact dictates the way we swing out of it.

I think that if you get a better downswing, you automatically have a better follow through. After all, the difference between downswing and follow-through is only bisected by ball contact. We can't control the path of the follow-through with muscular effort. We can shorten it, but we can't deviate the path of it. For me, the path of the follow-through is decided before impact, even if we are shortening it.

To shorten a follow-through, we have to do something prior to impact that lets us shorten it. We don't hit the ball full out then decide to shorten it after impact. Or at least I don't! I guess I can't speak for everyone!

[BrianW]

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Okay. Swatting is out.

According to Lowpost, after impact is "irrelevant". What? Create your own free style of follow through swing? I'm sure there is some relevancy after impact that's why we have a follow through swing (post impact swing).

Should I use the power move (AJ Bonar) or the square face all through the swing (I believe Hal Sutton uses this swing. Correct me If I'm wrong).

Or may be it doesn't matter. Just pick one and work with it.

Any thoughts?

Joeyg565

I am with Neil here.

What happens after impact is representative of what happened at and before impact. Good extension after is a sign that the arms were extending into impact, the right shoulder working under the left is a sign the spine angle has been retained. The wrists and forearms rotating after impact is a sign that their was lag and release through the swing.

There is a difference when using the right hand drill though, the wrists are set early and maintained in position by the cocked right wrist, the rotational forces of the hips and shoulders are used to create the clubhead speed as opposed to the release of the forearms and wrists.

[bdbl]

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IMO, what happens after impact is almost irrelevant. If your impact position is good, then your ballflight will be good.

Since he hasn't posted much himself lately I'll do a Bulldog here and preface my remarks with the caveat that I am a high handicapper currently working through some swing problems so what do I know anyhow

I'm with Neil and Brian on this in that while LP's comment seems logical surely the follow through reflects what has gone before and that you can't really have a good impact (and subsequent ball flight) without the "correct" follow through.

This ofcourse begs a different question, what is the correct follow through?

For instance does a 3 skills "hit at the outermost point of the curve ...never think in straight lines at impact" swing have a different follow through to a Leslie King "the club-face must be moving squarely along the intended line of flight during ....and as long as possible before and after impact" swing?


Ooops, sorry, just realised that Joey has asked much the same question using different examples.

[Neil18]

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Hmmm. Seems to me that this Bonar chap is confusing himself.

In the picture (attached) that he uses as a perfect example of his method, it says Adam Scott's clubface is wide open coming into impact.................it's not. It's pretty much square to the path. Same with the follow-through picture.

If his clubface were "wide open" it would be toe-up in that position.

I'm not sure what this instruction article is trying to tell us really:

A.J. Bonar's Instant Power Move | Instruction | Golf.com

"Take your grip and open the clubface 10 degrees" ?????!!!

Yes mate. That'll cure the slicers and swatters.

He also states: "WRONG - Tilting your right palm toward the ground shuts the face" ............. no AJ, it keeps the clubface square to the path as can be seen in your own photo of you doing it!

I shall not go on. I think we all get the picture that I don't think this is helpful.

[LowPost42]

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Re: the throughswing (or post impact) you all hit on what I was getting at - there are no 'positions to hit' on the follow through; they're all 'reactionary' to what you did on the downswing and at impact, therefore trying to hit post impact positions is kind of fruitless. Now, that said, I know that there are some fellows who practice trying to get to certain finish positions - the logic being that if they can hit these positions, the rest of the swing will fall into place.