One plane swing question

[billneurauter]

Alright, so I am a little confused on the one plane swing. I know that Vijay Singh uses it and that I have read before that he concentrates on bumping his hips forward to start the swing. I have also read that a one plane swing does not start from the ground up. Can someone please clarify this for me. I always have liked to start with the lower body as it is a lot more powerful. It also seems as though if you don't start with the lower body then you lose that connection between your left arm and shoulder. Thanks for the help.

Bill

[MJE77]

Re: One plane swing question

In the book I think he says to begin the backswing by taking the left arm across the chest.

[LowPost42]

Re: One plane swing question

I have also read that a one plane swing does not start from the ground up. Bill

What did you read?

In Jim Hardy's book, he talks about the hip bump to start the downswing. It doesn't get much mention, but it is in there.

Sounds like a ground up swing to me.

The purpose of the hip bump is to maximize tension between the upper and lower body. Then, you race your shoulders around your spine - your hips should naturally clear.

[billneurauter]

Re: One plane swing question

I just skimmed Jim Hardy's book. I borrowed it from a friend, and have one on order. I guess I must have missed the ground up start in the book. I like the one plane swing because it just feels like I can get more whip into the ball, I just didn't like the idea that I had to consciously unwind the shoulders, I would rather just have that "no hands" feeling on the downswing. Is this feeling right with the one plane swing? From past experience under pressure I know it is more reliable for me to rely on the big hip and leg muscles to get the swing going. Thanks for your help.

[auldyn]

Re: One plane swing question

Sorry if I digress, but I dont think the IPS theory is new I do recall an English pro advising at address with iron clubs the toe should be slightly elevated sufficient for a small coin to be inserted.His reasoning? the shaft in the down swing is deflected, as I recall this article first appeared about 40 years ago.In conclusion I think the address is the very essence of the IPS.

[billneurauter]

Re: One plane swing question

audlyn,

I agree that the 1ps has been around for a while, it just hasn't been talked about much until now. So you are saying that the body motions are the same for both swings as far as downsing sequence, it is just the setup that is changed?

[auldyn]

Re: One plane swing question

What I am trying to say is that over analysis has gone in to the golf swing .Think about it,do you have any concious thought when performing every day tasks?If you broke down such simple tasks as walking and gave details of motor neurone responses it could run to several pages. I maintain if you have correct grip and adopt correct posture things should happen naturally. You might ask what is correct grip?I can only say if you return the club head consistently square at impact that is the correct grip for you

[MJE77]

Re: One plane swing question

I mostly agree with that. I bought the book and changed my setup/posture to suit the one-plane swing and took on just two swing thoughts which were to move my left arm across my chest on takeaway and keep contact there and to pronate my left forearm at the top of the backswing. I got instant results and got my best score so far today.

[billneurauter]

Re: One plane swing question

MJE77,

What do you mean by pronate the left forearm at the top of the backswing?

[LowPost42]

Re: One plane swing question

In both swings, the hips have to clear, the shoulders have to turn, and the hands/arms still have to deliver the club down the line squarely.

The fundamental differences is where the hands/arms go during the swing.

[MJE77]

Re: One plane swing question

Pronating the left forearm means to turn it clockwise, it causes you to open the clubface at the top of the backswing I think and also to keep the club pointing at the target or slightly laid-off. Since applying these two moves and the setup/address I haven't really hit any bad shots. They either go right at the flag or just off the green and leaving me with a decent chance of chipping it close. Even if I feel off as long as I keep the left arm in contact with my chest it seems I can mess-up elsewhere as much as I like and still get a decent shot.