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    Seeking some clarification here. If at impact, my club handle is higher than it was at address, is that considered an outside-in swing? And so if the club handle is lower than it was at address, is that an inside-out swing? So for a perfect swing, is it mandatory that the club handle at impact must be at the same position as it was at address? Or did I read somewhere that good golfers even have the hands lower than at address (a slight inside-out swing)?

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    Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

    From what I've seen of the Pro's the angle of the shaft at impact is steeper than at address. The inside-out etc. swingpath usually refers to the path of the clubhead not the handle.

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    • #3
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      Has anyone out there heard of J. Douglas Edgar ? The reason I am asking is, Tommy Armour called him the father of the modern golf swing, I.E in to out. He died in very mysterious circumstances Aug. 1921

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        Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

        Originally posted by auldyn
        Has anyone out there heard of J. Douglas Edgar ? The reason I am asking is, Tommy Armour called him the father of the modern golf swing, I.E in to out. He died in very mysterious circumstances Aug. 1921
        He's mentioned in this wonderful article: http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...etofgolf1.html

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        • #5
          Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

          Thanks,Todd, I agree, a very interesting article.He was highly regarded by Bobby Jones,he said he was a virtuoso and could work the ball like a magician, great pity about his early death. Harry Vardon thought he could have become the greatestof all, he was only 26 when he died.

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          • #6
            Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

            Originally posted by ubizmo
            He's mentioned in this wonderful article: http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...etofgolf1.html
            Todd, great link. Thanks!

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            • #7
              Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

              Originally posted by Simon Woo
              Seeking some clarification here. If at impact, my club handle is higher than it was at address, is that considered an outside-in swing? And so if the club handle is lower than it was at address, is that an inside-out swing? So for a perfect swing, is it mandatory that the club handle at impact must be at the same position as it was at address? Or did I read somewhere that good golfers even have the hands lower than at address (a slight inside-out swing)?
              No, it's not always the case - you can get the grip to be higher at impact from the inside too ... All you have to do is 'lift' ...

              But let me explain inside/outside like this ... it's not difficult:
              1> Imagine you were looking at ground level at the club behind the golf ball.
              2> If, on the downswing, the club approaches the golf ball from the 'body' side of the golf ball, it is travelling from the inside.
              3> If the club travels into impact from the non-body side, it is being swung from the outside.
              4> Do the same for after impact and you can get any combination of the swing paths: inside-out, outside-outside, outside-inside, etc. etc.

              Where your thought comes from is a drill we commonly do with beginners. Normally, they swing from the outside anyway and slice the golf ball. By saying 'keep your hands lower at impact' than at address, it keeps the whole swing flatter and more square during the downswing. It really is a generalisation, big time.

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              • #8
                Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

                I believe that a perfectly straight on path at the ball is optimum because you can shape your shots in any direction as well as trajectory. However, I would err on the side of inside out, because this will compress the ball much better (resulting in distance) than an out-in path and will impart draw-spin on the ball versus the fade-spin of the out-in path.

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                • #9
                  Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

                  Thanks Graham that cleared up my confusion totally. Was trying to analyse my swing from the back view and I think somehow I erroneously looked at my club shaft in relation to address to make some sense of it.

                  So the correct swing should be an inside-in, right?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

                    Well, yes the preferred swing path is inside-square-inside ... sounds easy!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Inside-Out Outside-In

                      Ha ha, if only :P But seriously, I don't think I have much problems with the swing path and clubface direction, as my irons usually go pretty straight. I've read discussions where people actually favor a draw as it gives more distance, and I know one day I will look into creating a slight draw on demand.

                      What actually made me started this thread was that I noticed at impact, my hands are slightly higher than they were at address, so the club ends up steeper. For some reason I thought this might indicate an outside-in path

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