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  • #16
    Re: Cant consistently hit fairway woods/long irons/hybrids....

    1. Slow (I already take all my clubs back very slow, slow motion where you can go to sleep, and this really keeps my movement down)
    I wouldn't focus to much on the take away speed. Focusing to much on the take away, can make a person forget about the path leading back down to the ball. Some people try to take the club away slow, intentionally, and when they try to produce power, end up comming from the outside. IMO the take away speed should be the same as the speed of the club comming down from, about, full to 3/4's of the way. Remember, you can take the club away between your legs at 110mph, while spinning in circles and hit a great shot if your downswing is on path, and in tempo. But you can't do it visa versa.

    2. Low (when I take it back too low, it changes my natural swing that I try to do for all clubs, and it feels like I am reaching low and down with the club then lifting it up. So I am not sure, what I should be feeling but it feels different and makes me think just enough to alter my shot and misshit the ball.
    Imagine your club "departing" at the same angle it "arrives". Put that mental image in your mind, and record it. If you record a kid in a playground riding a swing, and you fast-forward the tape then rewound it, you could make the kid swing all day by playing it over and over again, even if he only swung once. Same thing with your perfect swing. Record - Rewind - Fast-forward.

    What I like to do for practice swings...

    1) Address the ground
    2) Take the club away to half swing
    3) Remember the path of that half swing
    4) Swing forward
    5) Try to make your downswing mirror the take away

    (Note: Don't look back at your club. Keep your eyes on the imaginary ball, and only take note of what you can see, with your eyes looking at the imaginary ball. Reason is, you don't want to get into the habit of taking your eye off the ball.)

    3. Sweep (I haven't a clue what this feels like)
    Instructors tell people this because they want their students to feel the difference in swinging longer clubs. The mechanics of the swing is the same to that of an iron, however, because the club is longer, the "pulling" will feel more accentuated.

    Think about it like swinging a chopstick, and a yard stick. The swing mechanics of both are the same, it's just that the yardstick will feel like "
    more of a sweeping action" because it's longer. They just use the word "sweeping" so people don't try to use an iron angle (steep) for their driver (sweeping) Also, they want to make sure that you don't complete your swing early, and pull all the way through the ball.

    My 2 cents

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    • #17
      Re: Cant consistently hit fairway woods/long irons/hybrids....

      Originally posted by NeoSquid
      Remember, you can take the club away between your legs at 110mph, while spinning in circles and hit a great shot
      I bet you cant.
      The purpose of the back swing is to setup the swing.
      To get you, the club and your weight in the correct position to perform a shot consistently. That faster you do something the harder it is to control.
      Nicklaus always said, to hit it far take it back slowly.

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      • #18
        Re: Cant consistently hit fairway woods/long irons/hybrids....

        I bet you cant.
        Well of course not! I was only exagerating (sp?).

        Whats his hame.. Thorpe - his take away is WAY outside, then his downswing comes back through on the inside. This just shows that you can take the club back pretty much any way you want, as long as your downswing is on path. You'll never see ANY pro taking his club back normal, then hitting off plain.

        This doesn't mean that the take away is not important, I'm just saying that it's one of the "fine tuning" things that better golfers work on. I'm just saying a bad take-away is better, then a bad downswing.

        Nicklaus always said, to hit it far take it back slowly.
        Last I saw, he had a moderately fast take-away. He wasn't over exagerating his take away. I saw his infomercial with that Inside Approach thing.

        I guess the definition of a "slow take-away" varies from person to person. I've seen people literally take 2.5-3 seconds to being the club all the way back to paralell. Any longer then 1.5 sec before you start your down swing is, IMO, to long.

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        • #19
          Re: Cant consistently hit fairway woods/long irons/hybrids....

          Originally posted by NeoSquid
          I'm just saying a bad take-away is better, then a bad downswing.
          I usually find I have a bad downswing becauseof a bad takeaway.
          Originally posted by NeoSquid
          wasn't over exagerating his take away.
          I think thats the key, whether your swing tempo is fast or slow, your "slow" takeaway should not be over exaggerated.

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