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    Hi Bill,
    Here are my comments. I am not a pro so its up to you if you want to listen to everything that I have written down.

    First of all, nice posture at address. The major flaw in your swing is that you lose your level and go up and down in your swing. The main focus that you should work on is keeping your head level the same.

    Pic A. Notice your arm hangs straight down? Try to reach out a bit moreat address and make the line more parallel to your thigh. At your takeaway, try to keep the club to follow the target line a bitmore to stop you from coming inside too quickly.

    Pic B. The thing to look at here is the difference between red lines and the yellow lines. As you mentioned, you do straighten out your spine angle. You gradually begin to do this when you are halfway through your backswing (when the club is parallel to the ground). And then right at the top of your backswing before you start the downswing, you actually do a mini squat (look at how much your knee has bent).
    Two things to fix with your back swing here is:
    1 - Try to maintain the initial posture (red lines) through out the whole swing or at least until you are well passed impact. What you should try to feel is that your are turning the upper body with your waist. Get someone to hold a club on the clubhead end and put the grip end on top of your head while putting pressure slightly downwards. do practice swings while you try to maintain the intial posture and not come up. Your friend should notice right away if you are still doing it.
    2 - As I mentioned on the downswing, you are doing a mini squat. make sure you are not bending your knees anymore. Keep them the same as your setup. When you swing, get your friend to go and sit behind your right leg and hold the right knee still to get used to the feeling.

    One more thing that I think is causing your swing to be a little bit flat is that you try to keep your right elbow in. You do have to feel that you are doing this but try this. Feel that at the top of your backswing, your elbow is bent at 90degrees. Its like your right arm is supporting the club to stay up and probably feel like you are holding a tray like a waiter.

    Pic C. Look at the greenline. As you can see your body is pretty much dead straight when you finish your swing. I am not saying that your spine angle have to stay on the red line here but it shouldnt be any higher than the yellow line. Again, by trying to maintain that spine angle through the swing should solve

    Pic D. On your downswing, you do actually bring the club back to the correct plane. which allows you to make contact with the ball. Obviously, when you try the above, you will have completely changed how your club is on the plane.
    The white line is the shaft line at setup. halfway down your swing, you have corrected your club to be kind of inline with the line. This is what you should also try to do when you have adjusted your swing.

    Ok, thats all for now. Good luck.

    Matt
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    Last edited by pinyo8; 10-24-2005, 01:39 PM.

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    Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

    pinyo8,

    Wow! Thank you for the detailed reasponse, I appreciate you taking your time to try and help me out. I am on a tight budget while going to college and I appreciate the advice as opposed to seeing a pro. So what I am getting from your response is that I really need to work on that constant spine angle and it should solve a couple of things. I am not trying to keep my right elow close to my body, I just think it ends up there when I lift up. I will get out to the range today if it stops raining and work on keeping the spine angle constant and hopefully that will get me in a better position at the top. Thank you again for all of the helpful advice.

    Here is a link to the video in case anyone else wants to chime in.

    http://www.golf-tuition-online.com/v...6/limit/recent

    Bill

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    • #3
      Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

      No problem at all Bill. I do enjoy looking and analysing people's swingsand had a bit of time last night.

      Let me know how you go with it. I do expect that you will have a bit of problem hitting it at first until you get used to the new position.

      Do try to keep the 90degrees in your elblow too because that will give you a good position at the top to start the downswing.

      Matt

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      • #4
        Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

        Pinyo, that's great advice (hands, elbow, coming inside) if Bill is going to swing 2 plane. But the rest is universal - especially the spine/squat thing!

        Bill - it's a pretty good looking 1 plane swing. It does come inside quickly, and the elbow does stay tucked. As Pinyo noted, you tend to straighten up on your backswing - just a little, but that's all it takes - by both straightening your legs, and lifting your spine (getting further away from the ground).

        Again, your elbow is fine - don't worry about it. In fact, I run into major problems if I don't keep my elbow in.

        On your downswing, that deep knee bend is an attempt to get back into position, and back on plane. You do a pretty good job - a nod to your athletic ability. Your spine angle stays consistent with where you were at the top of the swing, but that big knee flex has got to go (well, actually, you need to keep it until you're done straightening up ).

        So work on the following:

        First, keep that spine steady. Just turn your shoulders around your spine, and keep your arms and hands passive on the downswing. Centrifugal force will push your arms off your chest. Forget about hitting the ball - de-energize (is that a word?) your arms at the top, and turn your shoulders around your spine. Trust me, it works.

        Second, any sliding will make for pushes. Your hips have to stay pretty much in the slot for this swing to work.

        Third, make sure your stance is wide - shoulder width at least. This helps your hips stay put. Try this - stand with your feet together, and see how much lateral movement your hips have. Now stand shoulder width apart, and check again. Now try to do the splits, and check your hip movement. Get it?

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        • #5
          Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

          Just to add my two-penneth. Matt's advice about reaching out a little more at address might help to solve the few problems you might be experiencing with your swing. With your hands very close to your body I'm wondering whether your change in spine angle is occurring as you work to give yourself room to hit the ball. A rule of thumb that a teaching pro gave me when I was having similar problems is to ensure there's a "hand-span" between the top of the grip and your belt buckle at address. At first you'll feel like you're a long way from the ball but that will prevent any lifting up during the backswing. Just be careful not to overdo it as you'll be inducing tension into your arms, which should be nice and relaxed at address.

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          • #6
            Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

            I think the hands hanging straight down is fine, in fact its what you should aim for.
            I think the problem lies in the fact that you bend too much at the hips and not enough at the knees.
            Imagine trying to hit a baseball or tennis ball in your position, I bet you would stand up more and bend more at the knees.

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            • #7
              Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

              hey bill, i have been palying golf for a very long time(since i was eight) however i play alot of softball too, and i get very frusterated when i shoot in the 70's one day , and when i play softball everything falls apart, i roll my hands before i get to the ball and nothing feels good, what can i do do fix mt horrific slice during softball

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              • #8
                Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

                GreeBoman,

                I think that you might be on to something with bending more at the knees. I sometimes feel as if my weight gets to my toes too much, when it should really shift to my heels a bit if anything. I am 6 foot 3 so I work pretty hard on my posture, but I think I will try to add more bend to the knees. I think that a posture problem is causing me to lift up because I have tried all suggestions with no luck. I will try to "sit down" more and bend the knees more at address and see where that gets me. Thanks.

                Bill

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                • #9
                  Re: Bill's swing analysis and tips

                  Sorry if someone mentioned this, but I never noticed as I briefly read the highlights of peoples comments.

                  I see a lack of wrist cock in pic B. If you look, your club is pointing WELL left of the target. This is usually a result of not cocking the wrists fully.

                  Try this drill to get into the correct position at the top:
                  http://members.shaw.ca/gord962/drills/top_position.htm

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