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[Ian Hancock]

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Isn't that something to look forward too, as long as they enjoy the game as much as me then I am not bothered.

His first comp is next Saturday he's off 30 now but he is only 10, drivers nearly 200yds but my course is very long and difficult.


This is him just after impact,

http://www.golf-tuition-online.com/v...ead.php?t=4033


doesn't it make you appreciate youth........



Ian.

[nickwbryant]

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If you want to see a player who clears his hips check out Camillo Villegas, ridiculous amount. I reckon he will need to sort that before he can become a consistent winner though.

Ian - suprised you chose Langer as a model - he used to have a very dodgy swing changing angles and planes every which way and coming down very steep on the ball. His swing is a lot better now though.

TPC warming up nicely - really looking forward to weekend golf. I actually think this tournament should be a major - i certainly look forward to it as much as i do the others and its a hell of a lot fairer than the masters.

nick

[Ian Hancock]

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Hi Nick,

I know he has a strong grip, etc I don't but he is a similar height to me and I use him as a model, also I use ben crane from this site.



http://www.v1home.com/lessonshop.asp


Some great swings here.

Ian.

[nickwbryant]

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have recently started using v1 - its very upsetting to see your (well my!) swing broken into slow motion and each error seemingly massively magnified....its amazing i can hit a ball!

Ben Cranes not a bad swing to copy. See mr Langer has already moved up the leaderboard!

nick

[Ian Hancock]

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Hi Ricky,

Reference casting,

Yes you are correct there is a first move from the top with my wrists, my swing is a lot shorter than it used to be and not across the line anymore, I used to move the clubhead back on plane when my swing was longer with my wrists, a little of this move is still evident.

However there is no casting on the downswing, other than that initial move of about 4 inches, I have attached a clip from the downswing, note the angle of the shaft, there is no casting at all.

You must remember that even the club pro is still a poor golfer compared with the tour golfer, you will be following the "Holy Grail" if your are looking for tour perfection, not to dampen anyones dreams but it is nearer the realitly, my weekend partner plays of +2 he broke 70 15 times out of 24 competitions entered last season with a best of 64, he is one of thousands of similar golfers all around the UK never mind the world.

We are all looking to better our games constructively and I appreciate you taking the time to critique my swing, also well spotted for noting the initial move, I thought I had iradicated this bug bear by now, evidently not, I will keep working to further enjoy this great game.


Ian.

[pnearn]

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What are you playing off right now Ian?

I shot a 79 this weekend (net 69) in the medal so I think the convener is about to get on to me :-( !!

But dang those medal tees make the course long in the winter !

[Ian Hancock]

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Hi Paul,

I'm off 8 at the moment but shot 72 Sunday 2 over, like you though, we use grass winter tees at my course, almost the same as the yellows in summer, the green staff save the front part of the yellow tees for winter.

As I always say it mental, at the end of last season I threw away 3/4 shots in the last 3/4 holes due to pressure several times when I looked like shooting level par.

I run out of comps last year and came really strong at the end of the season, this year should be better, I missed a four footer for birdie on 18 yesterday for 71 that shows the butterflies have now flown and I am swinging alot better this year due to winter work.

If the worse comments I get is a slight hip sway forward then I must be onto a winner with my mechanics so who knows.

How about you Paul?

Ian.

[nickwbryant]

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Ian - how did you go about shortening your swing and prevent crossing the line? Apologies if you have posted that somewhere else

nick

[pnearn]

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Ian

Im off 10 but I'm hoping come the end of the summer i'll be playing more off 8/9. My short game right now is good, im really confident with it and its saving me on a lot of rounds as my driving has gone south. Not sure why but struggled off the tee for a few weeks now. Still fighting that push we were talking about, but i know its a mental thing that I have to go work out on the range (a fear of releasing hard to the left).

Course I am in the process of joining up here ( Duddingston) is long off the white tees (6600) so im having to hit a lot more fairway woods and long irons than I have before (where a lot where driver/short iron)

My main mechanincal fault is coming too far from the inside due to an agressive lower body. Im still working hard to straighten that out and trust it

[Ian Hancock]

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Paul,

You sound like you have just broke a mental barrier being 80 and now have some belief in your game, once you start to break 80 it is like breaking 100 you get better fast, then you will be dissapointed not shooting 75 - 0. Don't worry about length it is irelevent to your game, if your shooting 79 then you can hit a 6 iron just as well as a 9 iron, so distance from the green doesn't matter, we have a scratch player at my club who is very short of the tee.

Nick,

I spent the whole winter last year with a partner at the range, you can not do it any other way, you need someone to tell you how long the swing was every shot, so we hit three balls each and he told me everytime I crept long again, as for across the line I simply bowed my left wrist a little from the cupped position it was before, again with a freind telling you everytime you hit the ball you will soon grasp it, I must add shortening my swing has made the biggest improvement to my game both length, consistancy and ball striking.


P.s a great drill for across the line: take your set up with the left hand only and take it to the top, it is impossible to be across the line, at the top place the right hand on and swing down to hit the ball.

Cheers

Ian.

[nickwbryant]

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thanks Ian, i'll give that one hand swing a go for sure - i envy you your shorter swing!

nick

[RacLt7]

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Nice videos. I would say that Eduardo Herrera's swing is almost identical too mine (when im swinging ok). For irons and driver. When i have a good swing tempo I am fairly consistent. At the moment i am off 7 (19yrs old), for me i think its just mental... have no problems in a social game. Having a lesson this fri though so maybe i can fix a few things, last lesson must off been 3yrs ago.

[vp27519]

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Nick,

Shortening the swing is something I've had to work hard on. If my swing is shorter I don't cast at the top.

I've worked hard on shortening the swing by thinking half on the backswing. In the video the length is perfect even though I'm thinking half.

With the casting, I've been recently working on a new swing key. My first movement on the downswing is to move my hands across. I get my hands to move (horizontally) across my body and then swing at the ball with the butt of the grip pointing at the ball. Again it's perfect in the video. What I'm feeling is totally different to what is actually happening.

Cheers

p.s sorry Ian should have been commenting about your swing.

[Ian Hancock]

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No worries Nicole,

I seem to have opened a can of worms here about the golf swing....................!!

You are absolutely correct when I changed mine to a shorter swing the guy with me keep saying "still long" yet to me it felt to short, this alone is a lesson to all, that not everything relates to feeling.

Other than changing the grip I would say swing length is the next hardest thing to change.


Ian.

[nickwbryant]

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Thanks Nicole and Ian - the trouble for me in thinking short or half is that I cant get coiled as i would like and so my shots lose their fizz. Of late I have been experimenting with cocking the wrists sooner but its not quite working out. As summer is (supposedly!) here in UK now I don't want to mess too much with my swing but i would just love for once to be on the course and KNOW my club was on line at the top and not across!

nick