Re: Please clear something up for me....
Simon,
This is the great debate. The short answer is that a strongly shut club face at the top will generally set you up to hook. For most good golfers with a normal swing, it will influence you.
To the ramble.....
The question is "how much?"
In reality, this is the quesiton of everything. Shootin and others will say that worrying about the position at transition is too late. Your set-up will impact your take away, your take away will influence your position at the top of the swing, this will impact the transition, etc, etc all the way to impact. Thus some would say that closed at the top is waiting way too late to monitor the swing. Start with a base and build each layer on it correctly, and then you can hit consistently.
Therefore, any minor changes in your take away will have major impacts on impact.
Yet, if you watch some trick shot guys, they can sit on chairs and drive the living daylights out of balls. "Where is the pivot? Where is the backswing? etc. etc." It's not there.
It is said that Lee Travino would bet people that he could beat them by just using a Coke bottle to drive his ball. Very different from the guys that said that you need customer clubs to play!
Let us just say that "normal" golf instruction would indicate that a closed club face at the top of the swing is going to "set up up" to hit a draw best case, or a hook in the worst case.
Your mileage may vary.
Personally, I think 2 things really matter up to transition:
1. Where are your feet and where is your head at setup? (If you always start and hit with the same head and feet position, this "anchors" your swing.)
2. What is the position at the top of transition?
Theo
Originally posted by Simon Woo
This is the great debate. The short answer is that a strongly shut club face at the top will generally set you up to hook. For most good golfers with a normal swing, it will influence you.
To the ramble.....
The question is "how much?"
In reality, this is the quesiton of everything. Shootin and others will say that worrying about the position at transition is too late. Your set-up will impact your take away, your take away will influence your position at the top of the swing, this will impact the transition, etc, etc all the way to impact. Thus some would say that closed at the top is waiting way too late to monitor the swing. Start with a base and build each layer on it correctly, and then you can hit consistently.
Therefore, any minor changes in your take away will have major impacts on impact.
Yet, if you watch some trick shot guys, they can sit on chairs and drive the living daylights out of balls. "Where is the pivot? Where is the backswing? etc. etc." It's not there.
It is said that Lee Travino would bet people that he could beat them by just using a Coke bottle to drive his ball. Very different from the guys that said that you need customer clubs to play!
Let us just say that "normal" golf instruction would indicate that a closed club face at the top of the swing is going to "set up up" to hit a draw best case, or a hook in the worst case.
Your mileage may vary.

Personally, I think 2 things really matter up to transition:
1. Where are your feet and where is your head at setup? (If you always start and hit with the same head and feet position, this "anchors" your swing.)
2. What is the position at the top of transition?
Theo
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