impact position same at address?

[eurocop]

I am getting better ball contct etc these days but have trouble getting hips around at impact you will see in my impact my right foot is still flat, any ideas on how to move hips quicker to get there


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[shootin4par]

Re: impact position same at address?

you loose your spine angle, which produces no coil, no coil in the back swing means no coil to unwind in the down swing

[eurocop]

Re: impact position same at address?

thks, shooting par, at what point do you think i am loosing angle, i do feel i loose it in back swing but when i try to stay down i feel rigid and very cramped, but i will go back to range and try to stay there, i also notice I straighten right leg coming back, i will prob have to take less of a back swing.

[a_hornsfan]

Re: impact position same at address?

I am having the same two problems of the leg straigtening and losing spine angle. First thing I would do is take the time to make sure you are getting setup properly. Second, just think about keep that knee flexed. You will find you will have to remain on angle to keep it flexed, as soon as you come up and out then knee goes str8.

[shootin4par]

Re: impact position same at address?

go find my thread on spine angle, see if that clears anything up for you

[Ian Hancock]

Re: impact position same at address?

Hi Mark,

You have identified a small fault in your swing very well, by working on your hips it will eliminate your over the top downswing.

Try swinging keeping the right elbow close to your right pocket on the downswing for a more solid attack, also look at Gregs right hand drill for a better explanation.

http://members.cox.net/gregjwillis/LESSON1.htm


Hope this helps


Ian.

[shootin4par]

Re: impact position same at address?

Hi Mark,

You have identified a small fault in your swing very well, by working on your hips it will eliminate your over the top downswing.

Try swinging keeping the right elbow close to your right pocket on the downswing for a more solid attack, also look at Gregs right hand drill for a better explanation.

http://members.cox.net/gregjwillis/LESSON1.htm


Hope this helps


Ian.

if he works on spine angle first part of the hip problem, or maybe all of it, will be taken care of automatically

[Ian Hancock]

Re: impact position same at address?

Shooting4par,

I agree that he does lift in the backswing, personally I think the over the top downswing is his shot killer here and the major fault, not so much the spine angle, which is very good at address and also through impact, he has obviously mastered this up and down motion as part of his rhythm and could/should work on this.

Vice-versa working with the right hand drill and especially the hips may help eliminate the lifting also with a better swing plane into impact should reduce the stress of lifting in the backswing to gain power.

Maybe I should have added the spine angle needs to be maintained into my post...............!!


Regards

Ian.

[shootin4par]

Re: impact position same at address?

Shooting4par,

I agree that he does lift in the backswing, personally I think the over the top downswing is his shot killer here and the major fault, not so much the spine angle, which is very good at address and also through impact, he has obviously mastered this up and down motion as part of his rhythm and could/should work on this.

Ian.

his loss of spine angle leaves nothing to uncoil because nothing has coiled, so if he wants to start with his hips he needs to have them wound up. his spine angle goes up and down way too much and he will always be inconsistent at best untill this is taken care of, regardless if he fixes his over the top, which will also be eaiser to fix when he takes care of this

[GreeBoman]

Re: impact position same at address?

Lifting on the backswing needs the opposite on the downswing.
Basically you are hitting the ball well when you happen to time this right.

[Ian Hancock]

Re: impact position same at address?

shooting4par,

This is my opinion and my opinion only and the guys and girls involved take them or leave them.

There is no "across the line at the top", he infact apart from the slight lift takes the club back quite well and only slightly on the bottom plane line and achieves a good position at the top, he then starts the downswing with his upper body and throughs the club outside the line 'killer' there is no way back from this.

By working the lower body first he will achieve a better impact position, better strike, more power dispite a slight lifting, of course this should be cured in time, but I firmly believe that text book is not always the way to go with every student including myself.

Regards

Ian.

[shootin4par]

Re: impact position same at address?

shooting4par,

This is my opinion and my opinion only and the guys and girls involved take them or leave them.

There is no "across the line at the top", he infact apart from the slight lift takes the club back quite well and only slightly on the bottom plane line and achieves a good position at the top, he then starts the downswing with his upper body and throughs the club outside the line 'killer' there is no way back from this.

By working the lower body first he will achieve a better impact position, better strike, more power dispite a slight lifting, of course this should be cured in time, but I firmly believe that text book is not always the way to go with every student including myself.

Regards

Ian.

I appologize, when I made that last post I had another persons swing in mind, might have been johnbass, but not sure. I edited the post because there is no accross the line at the top, not even close

[Ian Hancock]

Re: impact position same at address?

Shooting4par,

No worries mate, thought I was going mad.


Ian.

[eurocop]

Re: impact position same at address?

thanks fellas, i really appreciate the feedback very much and will be back to the range today to work on spine angle hold and also getting those hips moving first to let the club drop inside. i find that when i work on footwork without a club , just using my hands and rolling from the outside of my right foot first onto left side of right foot which sends my right knee towards my left to initiate my downswing ( if that makes sense). I seem to get a lot more power with very little effort. This is what i will work on hard and when i can get consistant i will post another vid.

[Simon Woo]

Re: impact position same at address?

Hi eurocop, first of all I must say that for an arms swing, you are swinging it really well and it looks very powerful!

If you're read some of my posts in the other threads, I'm also trying to use less arms/hands in my swing. I just posted a new feeling, which is the hips are rotating first in the downswing, and with that the arms no longer feel like they are going forward to hit the ball, but rather going downwards and therefore letting the hips generate the forward momentum.

If you just look at a snapshot of yourself at address and at the top, you would see that your head has came up somewhat. I believe this is related to the spine angle, and right knee flex. All 3 issues should be resolvable at the same time. For me, learning to do this has resulted in a lot of fat shots (hitting ground way before the ball). Hopefully some of the better players here can give some advice on that?

Cheers!