Shoulder turn

[Simon Woo]

During the backswing, when you are doing the shoulder turn in line with the spine angle, do you feel like your left shoulder is dipping down, or the right shoulder is pulling up? Where should you be feeling the strain the muscles?

Thanks!

[GregJWillis]

Re: Shoulder turn

There should be a pull in the lower leading side of the back. No pull or feel in the shoulders. For me, I feel my left shoulder dip down rather then the right pulling up...but this is only becase I have eyes that are looking in that direction...I suppose if I was a woman with eyes in the back of my head as well, it would be a toss up.

[pnearn]

Re: Shoulder turn

During the backswing, when you are doing the shoulder turn in line with the spine angle, do you feel like your left shoulder is dipping down, or the right shoulder is pulling up? Where should you be feeling the strain the muscles?

Thanks!

I feel as if a wide arc is pulling my left arm which is then pulling the left shoulder. This is what 'pulls' my left shoulder behind the ball and transfers the weight. So I feel a pull and a stretch in my left shoulder and my lower back

[Simon Woo]

Re: Shoulder turn

Thanks guys. This is very helpful. And am I correct to say that at the start of the downswing, this pull on the lower left back should be even stronger?

[GregJWillis]

Re: Shoulder turn

No, I would say that at the top is when it is at it strongest. After that, the lower back will be in rebound and then in relaxation -- when done right. But be careful here, I hope you are not feeling any "pain" at the top. If so, you need to work out in stretching, or eval your physical limits, or even get a little more detailed in what you are doing if you are in pain there. It should simply be a feeling of enlongation of the lower back.

[Simon Woo]

Re: Shoulder turn

On the contrary, I hardly feel any pull that's why I'm trying to develop the right pull to get the right coil and the right feeling. It wouldn't be right to go and hit say 120 balls at the range and come off not feeling any muscles being worked, right?

Hmm maybe to be more specific, I was wondering whether I was getting the right coil at the top, and then whether I was initiating the downswing correctly. For the first part, would feeling the pull at the lower left back be a good indication? As for initiating the downswing, come to think of it, should I be feeling the pull on the right side instead?

[GregJWillis]

Re: Shoulder turn

Keep your hips generally still (they can turn back a little)...this will help the pull feel and build tourque....unless your like Gumby?

[pnearn]

Re: Shoulder turn

Simon

Try this. Take your stance as normal. Now take the club back on an arc with the clubhead as low to the ground for as long as possible. Be very careful not to let your lower body follow this move to the right (sway/slide), just let the right hip turn behind you. The feeling is having your arms move away from you as your body turns them. As you do this feel as if the clubhead is as far away from you as you can get without swaying.

At the top your left arm should be straight and pulling on your left shoulder. You should also feel this in the lower back and inside of your right leg (at least I do)

As always dont be really tense as you do this as you'll find it hard to reach this position

This is one of the main keys to power. As wide an arc as you can get without a sway/slide