Wrists at impact

[trialsbiker2005]

What should my wrists look like at impact,because lately im struggling to hit the driver straight or many other clubs for that matter and i think its becasue maybe my wrists are cupped,cocked etc.

[kbp]

Re: Wrists at impact

This is something I’ve always had a hard time figuring out. If you set up with the club face square at address, with a moderately strong grip (say 2 knuckles showing), then the back of your hand will not be facing the target at address. It will be facing somewhat toward the target but also somewhat upward. The stronger the grip, the more the back of the hand will be facing upward. Given this setup with a square club face, is the back of the hand really directly facing the target at impact, and if so, how does this not cause the club face to be closed at impact? It would seem more likely that the back of the hand is facing the same direction at impact that is was at address, in order to return the club face to square. Thoughts?

[GoNavy]

Re: Wrists at impact

This is something I’ve always had a hard time figuring out. If you set up with the club face square at address, with a moderately strong grip (say 2 knuckles showing), then the back of your hand will not be facing the target at address. It will be facing somewhat toward the target but also somewhat upward. The stronger the grip, the more the back of the hand will be facing upward. Given this setup with a square club face, is the back of the hand really directly facing the target at impact, and if so, how does this not cause the club face to be closed at impact? It would seem more likely that the back of the hand is facing the same direction at impact that is was at address, in order to return the club face to square. Thoughts?

Because it is all relative, you arre considering this in a static relation, you would be correct, but it is not static, it is under motion, and speed, during the swing the shaft bends and loads, actually it bends forward, so yes you need to get the back of the hand more torwards the target under speed because the head/face will arrive at the ball ahead of the shaft under load, returning your hands to it's address position, would result in an open club face. Hope this helps your understanding.

Take a look at the thread "Shaft Flex" in the clubmkers section.
http://www.golf-tuition-online.com/c...haft-flex.html
follow the link I list there, look at the diagram I provided, will give you a better understanding of the dynamic forces involved.

[GoNavy]

Re: Wrists at impact

Hi Navy.
Excellent reply .
cheers

LOL..Thank you...I can confuse new golfers as well as the next guy..lol..

I really hope he understands, this is a very difficult concept to understand, but very important point to the swing. I think the biggest problem with high handicap players, is they try to return to their address position and they try to come down the same way they went up, both actions will destroy any chance at solid contact and good golf. If there are two swing thoughts that will help most new golfers, they are...get your hands MORE torwards the target at impact, and swing down, inside the way you went back or another way to look at it, swing to the right of where you want the ball to go. Can you over do this, yes, but most won't even come close to over doing it.

[kbp]

Re: Wrists at impact

Aftford......Thanks so much for responding. I am looking at your picture. The picture is drawn facing directly at the golfer, looking directly perpendicular to the target line. I can clearly SEE some of the back of the left hand. If the back of the hand was pointing directly to the target, I would not be able to see ANY of the back of the hand. It would be an extremely weak grip, of course.

GoNavy...Thanks.....I agree that dynamics and shaft flexing will change the relative relationships of things, as well as leading hands. But as you point out in the other thread, this has a much greater impact on effective loft than on club face angle to target.

Let me see if I can find some impact pictures of the pros.

[kbp]

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Great picture! Thanks for posting it. This illustrates my original question. I believe you can see the label on the back of the golfers left hand glove in this impact picture. To me, this shows that the back of the hand is not quite facing directly at the target. Agree.....disagree.....???

[GoNavy]

Re: Wrists at impact

Great picture! Thanks for posting it. This illustrates my original question. I believe you can see the label on the back of the golfers left hand glove in this impact picture. To me, this shows that the back of the hand is not quite facing directly at the target. Agree.....disagree.....???

You will notice the clubhead is not quite to the ball yet, if it continues, the left hand/wrist will continue to roll and as it pinches down on the ball and through, as the ball leaves the face the back of hand will be facing the target, after impact, the hand will be facing left of the target, but will never be behind the clubhead. If you don't try to maintain a forward leaning shaft and attempt to get the back of the hand facing the target, you will, without a doubt leave the face open, because you will not roll the wrist, and the clubhead will pass the hands, the classic flip, then bad things will certainly happen. lol...I think the technical term for this type of swing is....umm high handicap golfer..lol

[kbp]

Re: Wrists at impact

You will notice the clubhead is not quite to the ball yet, if it continues, the left hand/wrist will continue to roll and as it pinches down on the ball and through, as the ball leaves the face the back of hand will be facing the target, after impact, the hand will be facing left of the target, but will never be behind the clubhead. If you don't try to maintain a forward leaning shaft and attempt to get the back of the hand facing the target, you will, without a doubt leave the face open, because you will not roll the wrist, and the clubhead will pass the hands, the classic flip, then bad things will certainly happen. lol...I think the technical term for this type of swing is....umm high handicap golfer..lol

Yes, no disagreement about the hands leading, flat left wrist, proper shaft lean, and rotating through impact. Also, I’m 100 percent sure that at some point in the rotation through the ball that the back of the left hand SHOULD be directly facing the target. I’m just ASKING how important it is that it be precisely at the point of impact rather than slightly after impact. Impact shots of good golfers, pros, especially those with relatively strong grips seem to show this happens slightly after impact. I guess maybe it depends on how you define "back" of the hand.

Thanks to all for the info. I guess I’ll drop it, as it seems to be getting on someone’s nerves, for some reason.

[golfonenemesis]

Re: Wrists at impact

Too much information for most, lets keep this simple. Start with your grip and end there; a good grip at address will produce proper impact postion at impact.
End of story

[shootin4par]

Re: Wrists at impact

Yes, no disagreement about the hands leading, flat left wrist, proper shaft lean, and rotating through impact. Also, I’m 100 percent sure that at some point in the rotation through the ball that the back of the left hand SHOULD be directly facing the target. I’m just ASKING how important it is that it be precisely at the point of impact rather than slightly after impact. Impact shots of good golfers, pros, especially those with relatively strong grips seem to show this happens slightly after impact. I guess maybe it depends on how you define "back" of the hand.

Thanks to all for the info. I guess I’ll drop it, as it seems to be getting on someone’s nerves, for some reason.

Kbp, you are right, the EXACT location of the back of the hand will vary slightly with grip strength. It can be slightly open at impact ifyou have a strong grip. if you have any more question on this, or if anything is not clear, feel free to ask.
good luck in the search
neil

[golfonenemesis]

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Do you all really think this is important to having a good swing/impact position?
give me a break.

[aftford]

Re: Wrists at impact

Too much information for most, lets keep this simple. Start with your grip and end there; a good grip at address will produce proper impact postion at impact.
End of story

the only good grip you know is one that keeps you company at nights lol
go bug somebody else gung ho joe

[aftford]

Re: Wrists at impact

Do you all really think this is important to having a good swing/impact position?
give me a break.

I TAKE IT THAT GETTING THE BALL TO THE TARGET ISN'T ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES LOL

PROBABLY WHY YOU NEVER MADE Q SCHOOL

[kbp]

Re: Wrists at impact

Kbp, you are right, the EXACT location of the back of the hand will vary slightly with grip strength. It can be slightly open at impact ifyou have a strong grip. if you have any more question on this, or if anything is not clear, feel free to ask.
good luck in the search
neil

Thanks for the info Shootin’. Unfortunately, I am feeling less and less free to ask about much of anything. It’s kind of embarrassing to be made fun of by people who are more knowledgeable when asking questions.

[aftford]

Re: Wrists at impact

Thanks for the info Shootin’. Unfortunately, I am feeling less and less free to ask about much of anything. It’s kind of embarrassing to be made fun of by people who are more knowledgeable when asking questions.

Grow up and go and find another thread .