hip slid

[bill reed]

in watching pros, they all slid there hips 4 to 6 inches towards target before there hips turn, is this where thay get there power? if you look at any pro on something like v1 software they all do it. never hear anyone talk about it ot tell you how to do it.
bill

[silas]

Re: hip slid

in watching pros, they all slid there hips 4 to 6 inches towards target before there hips turn, is this where thay get there power? if you look at any pro on something like v1 software they all do it. never hear anyone talk about it ot tell you how to do it.
bill

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Hi Bill .
it's called a lateral movement of the hips and if you watch any pro or low handicapper in slow motion, you will notice that this happens just before the backswing is comlpeted. its like a signal for the the hips to turn and the downswing to start .

Silas.

[bill reed]

Re: hip slid

hi silas
yes it also seems to start the downswing or at least it looks like that slowed down. at top of swing hips slid towards target 4/6 inches and seem to lead the arms down so right elbow is at the right hip throught the hitting zone and this also seems to shift there weight to the right foot too. thay all seem to do it to some extent, i was told by a pro that hips turn not slid??? but it looks like that is wrong if they all do it.
thanks bill

[shootin4par]

Re: hip slid

since you load into your rear side, you will unload off of your rear side, this is the latterall movement and for MOST, not all, people it is not something they should think about. If you coil up pretty good you should be ready to go over to the other side by only thinking of turning

[bill reed]

Re: hip slid

hi shootin4par
so really you do it without thinking, it happens if you do every thing else right.
thanks shootin4par, that clear.
bill

[shootin4par]

Re: hip slid

Bill, not quite sure if your reply was serious or not, that is the hard part about online conversations. if you need me to go into more detail I will no problem. A couple of things, if you think about going over to your left side you will then have swing thoughts of shift then turn, which in the down swing by the time you think shift, the club will already be at the ball so the two piece movement is not recommended. Also, if you shift too much to your left side, past your foot, you run the risk of dipping your right shoulder and hitting big pushes, blocks to the right
good luck in the search,
neil

[Ian Hancock]

Re: hip slid

Hi Bill,

You are correct, I would suggest that every good player does this, it is a simple case of the weight changing sides.

If you stand up straight with your feet shoulder width apart and move your weight from one foot to the other it's impossible not to have a sideways motion, to progress start turning the hips and shoulders, still standing upright to get the feeling of weight shift. Then of course move to the correct set up position still with this feeling in mind.

It's all about creating a smooth rhythm as the weight moves.


Regards


Ian.

[bill reed]

Re: hip slid

thanks ian and neil, think i understand, it happens more because your doing things right and you dont think about it more than trying to do it and yes neil i was hitting big pushes and blocks to the right,
thanks guys
bill

[shootin4par]

Re: hip slid

Your welcome bill, let us know how it works out.

[BrianW]

Re: hip slid

Hi Bill

I have suggested this video of Luke Donald a few times to point out parts of the golf swing.

If you look frame by frame you will see how the first part of his downswing is a movement of the hips that transfers his weight to his left side that also starts the initial drop of his arms.
http://www.golfonline.com/golfonline...634632,00.html


Regards
Brian

[bill reed]

Re: hip slid

hi brianw
yes that just what i ment in the video, anyone know where i can get a clip of lee trevino,
thanks brian
bill

[shootin4par]

Re: hip slid

not sure if treevino would be the best example to follow unless you want to play a low block fade like he did. He had his stance open and kept his club face close and shifted back and forth a little much, which helped him play that block fade

[bill reed]

Re: hip slid

hi shootin4par
played the trevino way of block fade for about 7 yrs and was down to a 8 handycap, then my pro got me to hit with more a closed stance and hit a draw. i hit it about 280ish with a driver and was about 30 yds longer. played the "normal" way for about 20 years and at one point was down to 4 handycap. hurt my back at work and had to give up golf for a couple of years, when i played more than a few holes my back started to hurt bad so last year i went back to trying the trevino swing and was suprised that i could play a full round with no back pain, i really thought i never a full round of golf again. still have bother with my back and cant play every week but i can now play some and i can hit that hight fade or the low block fade too. its great to be on fairway most of round. i'm off about 14 now and happy with that. one tip i find works for me is to start downswing with the thought of my hips sliding to left, feel my weight shift from inside of left foot to more the ball and big toe and and from inside left foot to outside of left foot. my right elbow is close to my hip as my hip turns and then i hit through the ball my left arm is still across my chest some and my belt buckle is to left of target. it works for me and dont say others would be better doing same, but it does let me hit ball where i want lot more than i have the last 20 years but not so long, drive about 250 yds with a high fade.
thanks for your help shootin, find your input very intresting and often has me thinking about the game more, i find being at home more i read lots more about golf now and you seem to have lots of good helpful hints.
thanks again
bill

[shootin4par]

Re: hip slid

good luck in dealing with back pain bill, I know it can be tough. I know a little physical fitness and if you want any tips on reducing back pain let me know. SInce you have played for a while you seem to know your swing pretty well and you are aware of all the variables and limitations of your swing so you are much more suited to calculating all your variables. One thing to think about Bill is you may want to reduce the amount of left to right hip movement as this will reduce the amount of reverse C you produce in your swing and that could help with the back pain issue. I am glad to hear you did not give up just because of the back, you have a true love for the game

[bill reed]

Re: hip slid

thanks neil
i cant get to that big C finnish so try and push my hands up to the sky to make sure i finish the swing, yes any tips on back pain i love to hear, do have to streach a lot doring the day and have a number of drills i go through to help with the pain.
thanks again
bill