Two Plane Takeaway

[RandomHero1090]

Simple question:

I realize in a 2PS your backswing is more upright than your downswing. However, you still have to rotate and still have to bring the club "inside."

At what point to you come "inside"? When your hands pass your right leg? Earlier than that. Later?

[shootin4par]

Re: Two Plane Takeaway

Simple question:

I realize in a Two Plane Swing your backswing is more upright than your downswing. However, you still have to rotate and still have to bring the club "inside."

At what point to you come "inside"? When your hands pass your right leg? Earlier than that. Later?

most all pros drop in on the down swing, whether it be what some call two plane or one plane because the shoulder angle steepens coming into the ball.

[canadian_man_44]

Re: Two Plane Takeaway

I saw something about that on the Golf Channels, Golf Academy. The instructor was talking about one or two plane swings. What he liked to teach two plane swingers was to drop your hands straight down at the start of the downswing. It looked like he was starting the downswing by dropping his right elbow straight down until it almost touched his ribcage and continuing right on through the swing from there. Here's a couple links that might help you. There's some pictures and explainations about the difference between one and two plane swings. I had no idea until I checked these out that I have a two plane swing. I've had people tell me that my right elbow is flying too high on the backswing, but, after reading this I discovered there is nothing wrong with my swing. It's just a two planer.
http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...ingplane2.html
http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...ingplane1.html

[RandomHero1090]

Re: Two Plane Takeaway

Maybe I should 1 plane it....

When I get the shaft to parallel to the ground, if I think start to make my move more inside, I seem to hit the ball better.

However, I still feel that "drop" from the top. I always like feeling that my right shoulder is turning under my chin, not across it.

Maybe I am 2PS'ing with not such a huge difference in angle between my backswing and downswing.

Tiger seems to do this. Almost like he blends the 2 together. Not that I am comparing myself to Tiger or anything....

Thoughts on that?

Here is the link to the 1 vs. 2 PS article...

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...ingplane2.html

[shootin4par]

Re: Two Plane Takeaway

I have read the article, the book, seen him in person, got instruction from a one plane instructor, etc....
Understand this, ben hogan who is classic one planer according to hardy himself, has a very "two plane" address, Tiger. Ernie, VJ etc..... are "one plane swingers" set up very two planeish. and yes randaom, your right shoulder should drop to the inside on the down swing, that feeling you describe is fine. the shoulder plane is flatter on the way back and steeper on the way down

[RandomHero1090]

Re: Two Plane Takeaway

Then I will stick with what has been working

Thanks!

[shootin4par]

Re: Two Plane Takeaway

your welcome,
hopefully I was helpful

[pnearn]

Re: Two Plane Takeaway

Simple question:

I realize in a Two Plane Swing your backswing is more upright than your downswing. However, you still have to rotate and still have to bring the club "inside."

At what point to you come "inside"? When your hands pass your right leg? Earlier than that. Later?

This is how I look at it. Take a fairway wood or driver and lay it out across your back foot, pointing down the target line. Sort of like this

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Now either using your shoulders or your hands (whatever you feel comfortable with) take the club away and when it is parallel to the ground the shaft should be over the club shaft on the ground. Not way inside it or outside out. From that point exactly the wrists should start to set (because if youve kept your lower body still i.e. not swayed or slid you should now be at the maximum point of extension) and the club will come up, inside and across your shoulder as you continue to turn. If the club doesnt start to come up and inside at this point I know Ive shifted to much weight to the right

Luke Donald is a great example

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...ld/donald.html

And look at the palm tree behind his trail hip. He doesnt obscure it at any point on the BS which means he isnt swaying and thus maintaining the radius between his arms and chest which allow his wrists to hinge naturally at the correct point (when the arms are at maximum extension)