Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

[jambalaya]

It just creeps back into my swing. My reverse pivot used to be very pronounced but now it is just a slight dip of the left shoulder before turning back but it causes a lot of trouble I think. I think it promotes coming over the top and decreases the chance of getting your weight to the right side. The only way I have found to stop it is to keep it firmly in my mind before I swing. I simply think of keeping my shoulders on the same plane with the first move straight turn back with the shoulders. I allow no weight to go forward. Does anyone have any other suggestions to cement a proper move?

[Neil18]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

A lot of reverse pivot happens with one plane swingers. Are you a one plane swinger?

It can be induced by the rotary movement of the shoulders at the start of a one plane swing i.e. the left shoulder rotates down and under the chin which forces your whole upper body turn toward the ground and you tilt rather than turn into your right side. This leaves varying proportions of weight (depending on the quality of the turn) on your left foot = reverse pivot.

As a suggestion, try thinking of moving your left shoulder straight across to your chin, rather than down and under in your backswing.

Might help.

[jambalaya]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

A lot of reverse pivot happens with one plane swingers. Are you a one plane swinger?

It can be induced by the rotary movement of the shoulders at the start of a one plane swing i.e. the left shoulder rotates down and under the chin which forces your whole upper body turn toward the ground and you tilt rather than turn into your right side. This leaves varying proportions of weight (depending on the quality of the turn) on your left foot = reverse pivot.

As a suggestion, try thinking of moving your left shoulder straight across to your chin, rather than down and under in your backswing.

Might help.

I am a two planer I think. Kind of get confused with that sometimes. Yeah, those weight shift problems are a killer. Your suggestion is basically what I do when I try to correct the problem but when I don't think about it for a while......

[Neil18]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

OK, The only other thing I can think is to try David Leadbetters famous "stepping" drill.

Address the ball properly, and when you swing back, actually stand only on your lright, then when you transfer your weight to the left, stand completely on your left foot.

Its a fairly simple excersie to get the hang of as long as you don't worry about how far you hit the ball. It'll soon give you an appreciation of full weight transferance with absolutely no possibility of leaving weight on you left hand side in the back swing.

[BrianW]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

The main cause of a reverse pivot is poor weight distribution. Look at this site and see the video "Reverse Pivot Drill"

http://www.golf.com/apps/instruction/V1Golf/archive.asp#

Hope it helps.

[jambalaya]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

Thanks Brian. I found a page with a lot of tips including a good explantion for problem and fix for the reverse pivot.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/TWGOLF/tips/golftipsq.html

[vp27519]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

I used to have this problem.

Consider maintaining spine angle and hip position throughout the swing.

[jamesh]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

I had a lot of lessons to help me with my reverse pivot - you are one step ahead since you already know what your problem is.

This is what has helped me - it is from a golf book. I imagine that there is a vertical line running from the center of the golf ball up to the sky. If at the top of the backswing you are totally behind that line - you are off to a good start.

Also, from my own perspective, I have deliberetly tried to slow my swing down. When I swing too fast - way too fast - I have a hard time shifting my weight over in time - I also look for that stretch I feel with a proper high finish and I check to make sure that my weight has moved forward and that very little weight is on my rear foot.

I hope this helps, good luck!

P.S. if you can get a video of your golf swing and watch yourself, it will go along way to showing you what you need NOT do. It helped me.

James

[jambalaya]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

Thanks. Based on your tips and my research, I simply need to think about it when I swing. I need to avoid that little shoulder dip foward at the beginning of the swing. That dip essentually changes the spine angle and makes one do all kind of corrections in the back and through swing to get the club back sqaure. My first move must be a rotation straight back with spine angle and tilt unchanged.

[ilang]

Re: Does Anyone Else Fight a Reverse Pivot?

Sevy had that problem before he won the Briitish open at St Andrews.On the practise round his playing partner suggested he leave his shoulders behind from the top of the backswing.In other words,start the down swing with the legs only.It worked, i know cause i was there.