closed clubface during backswaing

[shootin4par]

Re: closed clubface during backswaing

too much focus on positions and not enough focus on what we can control. If you set up right and start the first inch or so well, then a good chance you will hit the ball good. By the time you get to the top your downswing is pretty much done. I guess I will become another G1/cmays pretty soon, maybe I have already. These are just my thoughts and opinions, nothing more, nothing less, but I will say I have done quite a bit of homework on many different paths, but then again so have many others

[BrianW]

Re: closed clubface during backswaing

By "square" I assume you’re advocating the clubhead perpendicular to the swing path at address and impact and parallel to the swing path at the top, that is, allowing the club head to open and close based on the natural and unrestricted rotation of the arms during the swing, right?

Yes, nice explanation.

The clubface square to target at address and impact, right angled to target at the end of takeaway, halfway down and halfway into the follow through.

[BrianW]

Re: closed clubface during backswaing

too much focus on positions and not enough focus on what we can control. If you set up right and start the first inch or so well, then a good chance you will hit the ball good. By the time you get to the top your downswing is pretty much done. I guess I will become another G1/cmays pretty soon, maybe I have already. These are just my thoughts and opinions, nothing more, nothing less, but I will say I have done quite a bit of homework on many different paths, but then again so have many others

Shootin,

I have considered your thinking on getting the setup right and the swing will just happen (I think that's what you are suggesting?) Cmays also suggests similar in that if you are setup square to the target you only need to swing the club back and return your hands to the same place for a good hit.

In essence this is correct and for very experienced golfers like you two I guess you can think in these simple terms and make it work for you.

I have grave doubts that this thinking can work for the average Joe who is either just starting out or has played for a bit and has no idea or feel for what a good golf swing should feel or look like. IT would be more use to the better player who is looking to simplify his thoughts and improve on balance and rhythm

So many things can go wrong between address and impact due to the complexity of the number of variables related to body movement, left to random the chances of getting all those connections to consistently activate correctly must be small indeed.

I would advocate that your style built into a more conventional teaching method where setup and swing checkpoints are used would bring better results.

I could be wrong here but it is just the way I see it.