Help with high trajectory

[BrianW]

Re: Help with high trajectory

When I want to send the ball lower, I put the ball back in my stance. Or use a club with less loft. Or both.

Hi Martin, (I can see another marathon thread coming on here )

Yes, ball back will deloft the club but will also encourage an open face at impact as the face has not had time to close on the ball, also it will create too much retained lag thus losing power. This technique is good for a bump and run or a knockdown wedge shot but I would not use it for a full swing.

One of the advantages of keeping the hands ahead and the left wrist flat is that you deloft the club from say 7 to 5 iron, make very good ball turf impact and have a 7 shaft for control.

[golfseeker]

Re: Help with high trajectory

I neglected to mention another drill. On the downswing; just as you near impact take your right hand off the club and just continue hitting only with your left (assuming you are right handed). You will see a better ball flight. What may be happening in your normal swing is that your right hand wants to over power the left and causes a flipping of the club.
And the marathon continues.
Seeker

[Martin Levac]

Re: Help with high trajectory

Hi Martin, (I can see another marathon thread coming on here )

Yes, ball back will deloft the club but will also encourage an open face at impact as the face has not had time to close on the ball, also it will create too much retained lag thus losing power. This technique is good for a bump and run or a knockdown wedge shot but I would not use it for a full swing.

One of the advantages of keeping the hands ahead and the left wrist flat is that you deloft the club from say 7 to 5 iron, make very good ball turf impact and have a 7 shaft for control.

Different technique, same result. The ball back in the stance will deloft the club. Some adjustment to the grip should be made to compensate for the early strike. Since the ball will be launched lower than otherwise, it will go farther than otherwise as well.

The original poster mentioned he used longer clubs into the green. A longer club typically has left loft. I use a club with less loft when I want to send the ball lower as I wrote in my reply earlier. I see nothing wrong with that but the original poster seems to imply that it's a problem for him. I prefer to think that I must use whatever club will do the job. In this case a longer club with less loft happens to be the proper club.

[Collie]

Re: Help with high trajectory

Hi BrianW
Firstly congrats with your new grandchild. I've got a 3 yr old that swings his Little Tiger clubs with no fear...our dogs can confirm that.
Looked at Greg's right hand drill and think it's making sence to me, my release has been way to early. I'm playing this afternoon, so won't try it just yet, but sure it will help a lot.
I lovd my pings, but felt I needed a change and the X-20"s feels good and "nice to look at" as well - haha. The pro said I should play a couple of rounds and then come back for the lie angle adjustment.

[BrianW]

Re: Help with high trajectory

Different technique, same result. The ball back in the stance will deloft the club. Some adjustment to the grip should be made to compensate for the early strike. Since the ball will be launched lower than otherwise, it will go farther than otherwise as well.

The original poster mentioned he used longer clubs into the green. A longer club typically has left loft. I use a club with less loft when I want to send the ball lower as I wrote in my reply earlier. I see nothing wrong with that but the original poster seems to imply that it's a problem for him. I prefer to think that I must use whatever club will do the job. In this case a longer club with less loft happens to be the proper club.

OK Martin, that's fine, it works for you.

The original problem was excessive height that reduced distance, this is normally a result of flipping the wrists through impact. Changes in club will not fix this, it can only be resolved by maintaining a flat left wrist while having a small amount of retained lag at impact.

[Martin Levac]

Re: Help with high trajectory

OK Martin, that's fine, it works for you.

The original problem was excessive height that reduced distance, this is normally a result of flipping the wrists through impact. Changes in club will not fix this, it can only be resolved by maintaining a flat left wrist while having a small amount of retained lag at impact.

The original poster wrote that he can do 140m on a good day with the 7i and 100m with a wedge. I extrapolate his 2i distance at 200m. In my mind, that's normal for either club. In the original poster's mind, it appears to be a problem.

I simply wanted to point out that putting the ball back in the stance or using a longer club with less loft or both will produce the desired result of lower ball flight.

He also wrote that he's been a 8 or 9 handicap for as long as he can remember. That alone tells me he must know everything there is to know about ball flight height, distance and accuracy. He did not write that he wanted to get more distance but he did say that the high ball flight was a cause of lost distance. The implication is that if he were able to hit the ball lower, he'd hit it farther. That alone tells me he does not truly want to hit the ball lower, instead he wants to hit the ball farther.

In any case, putting the ball back in the stance, using a longer club with less loft or both will produce the intended result of lower ball flight and greater distance.

[BrianW]

Re: Help with high trajectory

The original poster wrote that he can do 140m on a good day with the 7i and 100m with a wedge. I extrapolate his 2i distance at 200m. In my mind, that's normal for either club. In the original poster's mind, it appears to be a problem.

I simply wanted to point out that putting the ball back in the stance or using a longer club with less loft or both will produce the desired result of lower ball flight.

He also wrote that he's been a 8 or 9 handicap for as long as he can remember. That alone tells me he must know everything there is to know about ball flight height, distance and accuracy. He did not write that he wanted to get more distance but he did say that the high ball flight was a cause of lost distance. The implication is that if he were able to hit the ball lower, he'd hit it farther. That alone tells me he does not truly want to hit the ball lower, instead he wants to hit the ball farther.

In any case, putting the ball back in the stance, using a longer club with less loft or both will produce the intended result of lower ball flight and greater distance.

I have given Collie my advice on what I consider he look at and work on, he seems to have got something from that. If he has any other questions I will try to answer them.

I have no wish to debate your theories further though Martin, please take them up with Collie. Thank you.