cure for a straight slice

[slater170]

hi all
got my banana slice down to a straight slice
looking for a permanent fix rather than band-aid
been told my swing path is good so how come im not driving straight
the ball travels between 150-160yds then turns right not drastically though

[jbrunk]

Re: cure for a straight slice

I would guess any ball that is slicing has to do with the clubface being too open. What you are describing sounds more like a big fade, so maybe its not so much of a problem if you play it.

[LowPost42]

Re: cure for a straight slice

hi all
got my banana slice down to a straight slice
looking for a permanent fix rather than band-aid
been told my swing path is good so how come im not driving straight
the ball travels between 150-160yds then turns right not drastically though

So, you're saying that you're going from a pull slice to a ball that starts relatively straight, then bends?

Well, based on another thread we had going on here, there's one of two things going on:

a) Your path is fine (in line with target), but the face is open at impact. Therefore, you need to close the face at impact.

OR WITH THE OTHER THEORY

b) Your path is still outside in, but the face is square to target. Since the face is open relative to path, but square to target, your ball is starting down the target line with cut spin.

If the answer is a) then the solution is to close the face.
If the answer is b) then the solution is to change the path.

High speed video is the only way to tell for certain.

Now, all this said, I fired up my Golf Achiever 2 for the first time today (my launch monitor). I've emailed the parent company to see which is calculated via algorithm, and which is actually measured. But in messing around today, my ball dispersion seems to follow theory B) that your path is wrong and face is square to target. No matter where my path was, the ball hit the net wherever the face was - closed face shots hit the left side, open face shots (my majority) hit the right side.

If this thread is still around (assuming GA answers my email), I'll be able to further offer Launch Monitor testing to these theories.

[slater170]

Re: cure for a straight slice

So, you're saying that you're going from a pull slice to a ball that starts relatively straight, then bends?

Well, based on another thread we had going on here, there's one of two things going on:

a) Your path is fine (in line with target), but the face is open at impact. Therefore, you need to close the face at impact.

OR WITH THE OTHER THEORY

b) Your path is still outside in, but the face is square to target. Since the face is open relative to path, but square to target, your ball is starting down the target line with cut spin.

If the answer is a) then the solution is to close the face.
If the answer is b) then the solution is to change the path.

High speed video is the only way to tell for certain.

Now, all this said, I fired up my Golf Achiever 2 for the first time today (my launch monitor). I've emailed the parent company to see which is calculated via algorithm, and which is actually measured. But in messing around today, my ball dispersion seems to follow theory B) that your path is wrong and face is square to target. No matter where my path was, the ball hit the net wherever the face was - closed face shots hit the left side, open face shots (my majority) hit the right side.

If this thread is still around (assuming GA answers my email), I'll be able to further offer Launch Monitor testing to these theories.

hi ben
didnt mean pull slice
my shots used to start off right and then veer off violently further right

[BrianW]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Hi Slats,

Sounds like a late fade. This is probably due to a slightly open clubface at impact with a near good swing path. The initial velocity of the ball will send it straight and negate the clockwise spin, as the ball slows the spin starts to take effect and turns the ball right.

Your swing will be very slightly out to in, you should work on closing the face at impact and getting slightly more on the inside path.

[Scragger63]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Ball starts off right then violently goes further right suggests to me in to out path with open clubface at impact.

This seems to be my problem, in that my general problem is that i am always fighting a hook, but sometimes I block the ball straight right.

My presumption being I am swinging in to out and that the clubface position at impact is variable dependant on what I do with my hands...

It seems more often than not I am too wristy (if thats a term) through impact and I then hit a draw or hook depending on degree of wrist. Sometimes I am a little late with the wrists and then I hit the blocks right.

Logical...???

If so, drills for the wrists maybe...???

Cheers

[slater170]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Hi Slats,

Sounds like a late fade. This is probably due to a slightly open clubface at impact with a near good swing path. The initial velocity of the ball will send it straight and negate the clockwise spin, as the ball slows the spin starts to take effect and turns the ball right.

Your swing will be very slightly out to in, you should work on closing the face at impact and getting slightly more on the inside path.

cheers brian
i think maybe right hand grip is a little weak will work on that next time out.
all other clubs straight or slight draw

[slater170]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Ball starts off right then violently goes further right suggests to me in to out path with open clubface at impact.

This seems to be my problem, in that my general problem is that i am always fighting a hook, but sometimes I block the ball straight right.

My presumption being I am swinging in to out and that the clubface position at impact is variable dependant on what I do with my hands...

It seems more often than not I am too wristy (if thats a term) through impact and I then hit a draw or hook depending on degree of wrist. Sometimes I am a little late with the wrists and then I hit the blocks right.

Logical...???

If so, drills for the wrists maybe...???

Cheers

hi craig
violent slice used to be my stock driver shot
now brian has pointed out it is a late fade
i will be working on stronger right hand grip
ive nearly straightened it out by swinging slower with a looser grip and getting the club more on the inside

[Sumosid]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Really hard to tell without seeing the swing. if it is happening with all your clubs then I would say that it could be grip related or the dreaded reverse C...

[slater170]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Really hard to tell without seeing the swing. if it is happening with all your clubs then I would say that it could be grip related or the dreaded reverse C...

hi sumosid
sw to 3wood are fine only have problem with driver
time to go see a pro i think

[Scragger63]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Hey Slats......

Just so long as you've got something to go forward with...

Truth be told, I didn't even see Brian's post til after I'd posted myself...

After which I did think maybe grip and if I really thought about it, then maybe I'm not consistent enough in taking my grip.

Bottom line for me is that whilst I know inconsistency plagues me, the real trouble is, I don't practice or take enough care to know what I do differently each time I step up to hit the agate...

Hear that......... That's the sound of a "penny" dropping......

New task for me... Build solid repeatable pre shot routine and NEVER deviate from it......

Cheers

[shootin4par]

Re: cure for a straight slice

slater, lets say you have given completely accurate info and you have no problem with sw to 3w and it is only with driver.
so the conclusions I could draw up are
swing too hard with driver
because it is driver you subconsciously grip it too tight and body is too tight
bad ball position, too far fowrard or back
because ball is further up in stance then your shoulders are open at address
just some off the top of my head, next time at the range hit ten balls, then change something up when it comes to set up, then change again and again. move the ball too the toe or heal of the club, cuase the ball is high on a tee, if you set up with it square in the face then you may have to make subconscious adjustment. My point is move things around and experiment.

[james.welsh]

Re: cure for a straight slice

Slats:

Might I make a suggestion?

Try moving the ball position forward an inch or so at a time until your ball begins to go straight. If the ball is too far back the ball will tend push off to the right. Make sure you tee it high enough too. Too many people keep positioning the ball the way they are shown in the books and too low.

Especially on the driver. I moved my ball position wayyyyy forward and it worked like a charm. Now the driver is one of my favourite clubs. Try playing with ball position (left and right and up and down and in and out)and once you've figured out what works come up with a method of making sure you line up to the ball EXACTLY the same way every time you drive.

The driver is the only club that you have the luxury of tee-ing the ball precisely the same way each time. Use that!

Good luck.

[slater170]

Re: cure for a straight slice

hi all
i think maybe you are right about ball position.
the problem with the range is that the tees are not high enough usually the ball is only roughly in line with top of driver face.
will have to wait till weekend to get on the grassed practise area.

neil
i am working on a looser grip and more relaxed set up and seeing better results already just have to find some consistency

[james.welsh]

Re: cure for a straight slice

You can buy the rubber tees at different heights. There are even plastic tees that fit into the matts that allow you to insert your own wood tee and adjust for height. In fact you're right. It's best to create a set up that you can replicate on the course.

I know they're gimmicky but the brush tees are great because they allow you to tee the ball at the same height every time. Buy the orange blue and yellow ones and experiment.