Move hips laterally or turn??

[Renton405]

I see many golf instruction says to move hips laterally on the start of the downswing and then let them turn naturally... Others say not to move laterally the hips and to turn the hips only without the lateral movement.. Its really conflicting on someone trying to figure which is the best.. can anyone give their opinion on this??

[tonyc9]

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Some people say you should move the hips laterally and other say that you should move the left hip away from the target line but I think it is the one move. If your hips move laterally towards the target you will run run out of room and then the left hip will move away from the target line naturally. If you don't start the swing down with the hips you will have too steep a downswing and cant approach the ball from inside.

[cyc53870]

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Try both methods at the driving range and see what works for you.

I try not to think about the hips and build my swing more on the chest/ upper body... But different strokes..., eh?

[golfluver1]

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Ren

There is a wonderful article in this months Golf Magazine, the April 2007 Issue. You will see it on their front cover, it is called the O-Factor by instructor Robert Baker. In his opinion he shows how the Touring Pros correctly turn their hips both backswing and downswing. It is a very insightful article. Check it out if you can.

Golf Magazine currently has this instruction video on the O-Factor:

http://www.golfonline.com/golfonline/instruction

[jambalaya]

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Look at the "Hitting the ground before ball" thread. Someone references an article in Golf Digest that explains the one vs. two plane swing. In that article it basically says that one plane swingers have very little lateral shift of the hips and two planers should have a more pronounced bump. One of the big points of the article is that goflers get conflicting information because advice comes from a different perspective that may not be applicable to your basic swing.

[shootin4par]

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Look at the "Hitting the ground before ball" thread. Someone references an article in Golf Digest that explains the one vs. two plan swing. In that article it basically says that one plan swingers have very little lateral shift of the hips and two planers should have a more pronounced bump. One of the big points of the article is that goflers get conflicting information because advice comes from a different perspective that may not be applicable to your basic swing.

very true about conflictinng advice. look at hogan for example, by their definition he is a one planer but guess what, he has a HUGE shift of the hips left, not a bump.
renton, try this if you like. imagine your target line, now lay a shaft at 45* from the inside or your right insteap ata 45* angle to the right of your target. Now get to the top of the backswing and fire the right hip down and along that 45* angle. this will take care of the bump and turn.

[msklar92]

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I think a critical part, as mentioned in other post (Gord) is to avoid the hip slide on the BACKSWING.

[Renton405]

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very true about conflictinng advice. look at hogan for example, by their definition he is a one planer but guess what, he has a HUGE shift of the hips left, not a bump.
renton, try this if you like. imagine your target line, now lay a shaft at 45* from the inside or your right insteap ata 45* angle to the right of your target. Now get to the top of the backswing and fire the right hip down and along that 45* angle. this will take care of the bump and turn.

Thanx I am gona try that..

whenever I try the lateral hip move I get back strain because the spine curls more in when you move the hips laterally.. If I just turn I don't get as much back pain, but my right shoulder dosen't "drop" as much(the ben hogan throwing pebble at the pond feel) ,as it seems the drop is a very important thing..

I am also told that shooting the right knee in toward to target on the downswing gets a good hip turn also..I seem to have a problem with timing my hips correctly, but when I do I definatly feel it and hit a really nice draw.. wish I could do it everytime..

[msklar92]

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this is the thread i was looking for, check this out it may help
http://igolfvideos.com/tips/drill3.php?Clk=1838299

[Renton405]

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thanx alkot for that video. Ill try that.. Moving the left hip to the back of you.. whats with the dudes voice though? lol

[Renton405]

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thanx alkot for that video. Ill try that.. Moving the left hip to the back of you.. whats with the dudes voice though? lol

[bahamaman]

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I agree with the video on hip turn rather than a slide to the left. However he doesn't say how to do it. A good way to insure you're clearing the hips is to fold the left knee back. It also drops the hands into the slot. The left hip has no other place to go that to turn around to the back. Also once you groove it , it's a great way to gain extra yardage, hence the saying "fire the hips". It must be timed out but with practice you can do it. Also , that's how Tiger tore his ACL. He likes to get that little bit of yardage that way. Watch his swing. He posts up on his left leg and staighten it out. He says so in his book, How I Play Golf. Hope this helps.
I drove 290 yesterday doing this and hitting the ball on the upstroke.

[jbrunk]

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In every good golf swing there is lateral movement (hip slide, hip bump, squat, counterfall, centering) whatever the heck you want to call it, followed by the turning of the hips open into a firm/straight left leg. It is called kinetic chain snapping.

[bill reed]

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hi
i think lateral slid is okay as long as it is only onto the left foot. the last thing you want is any lateral slid on the back swing, turn on the back swing and then slid to the left on the downswing.
the right knee it the strong point that stops backward sway. having your right knee stopping any sway to the right is always a good thing.
cheers
bill