Turning my hips to quick

[Mcdougle]

At the moment i am struggling with a bit of a slice. The ball starts straight and then slides off to the right towards the end of the ball flight. I had a friend check my swing and he said i turn my hips too quickly on the downswing and then i leave the face open. Then i tried to keep my hips from turning and a started hooking and chunking it.

Has anybody got any drills to stop me turning my hips so quickly at the start of the downswing??? I really don't want to have to play with a hook because i used to and it got me into all sorts of trouble and a slice is just too unpredictable.

Thanks

[ianx3x]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

i used to have the same problem REMEDY dont break your wrists at
start of backswing swing smoothly, big shoulder turn start down arms
only forget what u read in books play ball 2 inches left of centre for
driver centre for irons finally allways pick a target before taking stance
let me know if this cures your problem Ianx3x manchester

[Mcdougle]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

Cheers i'll try that next time i go down the range

[Stillhacken]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

I am not a pro but I didnt think it was possible to turn your hips to quick.The problem is when your shoulders go with the hips. I would say keep firing those hips but keep your shoulders square at impact. This should keep your clubhead square at impact. Keeping your forward foot square or slightly closed is supposed to slow your hips down if you really must. Good luck !

[Renton405]

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that seems true.. It seems I can never get my hips fast enough... The ones that I do the fastest I hit the best shots..

One thing though is to start the downswing moving your left knee and hips to the target a little bit BEFORE your backswing is totally finished.. So just a little bit before you backswing is totally finshed your hips and left knee should already be moving the other way back to the target.. You won't believe the amount of power you can generate doing this....Lotsa pros do this and it guarantees that the hips start first and the shoulders dont overturn..

Also get more of a stronger grip(the "V" on the left hand mpointingn more to your right shoulder)... A very important think is to grip the club in the fingers only, do not let any of it get in the palms.. The grips should be resting in the little pads of your fingers of both your right and left hand, this provides you with better wrist control(even tho it may feel awkward at first), hinge and release.

Keep barely any pressure on your right hand thumb and first finger when gripping the club, In fact they should just be resting there,, no squeezing.. the most pressure should be in the last three fingers of the left hand.. pressure in the first fingers and thumbs is a big no no

[BrianW]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

Take a look at this site and follow through the "O" Factor lessons. It will give you a great insight to the way the hips, shoulders and arms should work in the swing.

http://www.golf.com/golf/instruction...593284,00.html

[Mcdougle]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

I am not a pro but I didnt think it was possible to turn your hips to quick.The problem is when your shoulders go with the hips. I would say keep firing those hips but keep your shoulders square at impact. This should keep your clubhead square at impact. Keeping your forward foot square or slightly closed is supposed to slow your hips down if you really must. Good luck !

Its not the fact that i turn them too quick, it is that i turn them too early so my belt buckle is almost pointing at the target when my hands are half way down on the downswing.
Sorry for the confusion.
I have learnt that this is the problem Tiger has which results in him blocking it out right.

[jambalaya]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

Its not the fact that i turn them too quick, it is that i turn them too early so my belt buckle is almost pointing at the target when my hands are half way down on the downswing.
Sorry for the confusion.
I have learnt that this is the problem Tiger has which results in him blocking it out right.

I really don't think you can turn the hips to fast. You need to find out why your arms and shoulders are so disconnected from your hips that gets you out of cync.

[The Hud]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

Its not the fact that i turn them too quick, it is that i turn them too early so my belt buckle is almost pointing at the target when my hands are half way down on the downswing.
Sorry for the confusion.
I have learnt that this is the problem Tiger has which results in him blocking it out right.

I have the same problem, it's a matter of timing, the hips are leaving the arms behind which causes the arms to pull away fron the body, which in turn causes an out to in swing. I have read that in such cases you should start your downswing by pulling the club down first. It works for me when I think of it, but I revert back to the old way far to often, if anyone has a better way I would be glad to hear it

[The Hud]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

Take a look at this site and follow through the "O" Factor lessons. It will give you a great insight to the way the hips, shoulders and arms should work in the swing.

http://www.golf.com/golf/instruction...593284,00.html

Thanks BrianW that link looks as if it will solve my problem, great stuff.

[Timothy Slaught]

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Hey Hud:

Check your top of backswing position by way of video or if not at least by mirror in a rehearsal type swing. Many players are unaware of where they actuallyare at the top. Make sure you are not overswinging. This tends to leave the arms behind the rotating body on the downswing causing the now famous "stuck" position leading to impact. Overswinging results in a beyond parallel, across the line position at the top that is hard to recover from in the downswing. If it looks like this may be a problem, try shortening up your backswing. You may be surprised at the results.

If your backswing is ok than you need to deal with the open clubface that is occuring. If your ball is starting straight then cutting, your face is definitely open. This could be your grip but only rotate the left hand a small amount and make sure you do not rotate the right hand too far under the shaft as the left hand moves over.

[The Hud]

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Hi Timothy thanks for your reply, I have been to a few pro's and they have all told me that I am alright at the top, that it is the downswing I have a problem with. As I said my hips seem to outpace my arms with the result my hips have nowhere to go as my arms come through the ball, this makes me straighten the body, rising up and flicking the wrists to give the club room to pass through resulting in a weak slice. I am at present working on BrianW's sugestion about the 'O' Factor, found in this link. I feel I have been coming down around the right knee, instead of pushing the knee inwards at the start of the downswing, I feel confident this could solve the problem.

http://www.golf.com/golf/instruction...593284,00.html

[The Hud]

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Thank you cmays for all your help, I have tried out the drills you suggested and I do feel that I am right at the top of my swing. I said earlier that I felt that I was coming around the right knee instead of driving the right knee forward, I have come to the conclusion on watching some old video’s of myself that the real problem lies with my hips, they are moving straight back and blocking myself and causing the right shoulder to turn too early. Or perhaps I should say it’s the fault of the right foot, in just pushing off in the down swing instead of turning on the ball of the foot, that is what would happen if I drove the right knee forward. I haven't beent to the range yet to try this out, but I am feelig ptretty positive about it.

[The Hud]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

Thanks cmays, I have always turned the knee in, I can see the advantage already of sliding the knee in instead.

[The Hud]

Re: Turning my hips to quick

Hud:

You are welcome.

Turning the knee in can help some, but it can cause all kinds of problems for others.

It can open the hips up and on the downswing your hands and arms can get stuck behind you. It can restrict a swing and etc.

The sliding of the right knee shifts the body back to center and gives you a little left hip bumb so you can be in the Reverse K position at address and you have a good brace to push off of in the downswing.

Again you are right, where I thought I was moving straight back with the hips, I now realize that's not the case, I am opening the hips on the downswing as you said. I have been doing this for so long I couldn't put my finger on it, nor has any of the pro's I have seen. So what must happen is that when I turn the right knee in it opens the hips, causing it to unwind too early on the downswing, is that correct?.