Single plane

[fahie]

what are the advantages and disadvantages of a single plane swing and who does it normally suit? as i am debating a change having been injured for so long anyway its like being back at square one all over again so i am considering a one plane swing. Any help on this matter would be much appreciated.


thanks

adam

p.s sorry if this has been posted previously

[edshaw]

Re: Single plane

Hey, I remember Helen Alfredsson from Delray
Beach. She's got an awesome game.
I agree with everything she says, except one
thing -- the stomach. The stomach is a internal
digestive organ. I think she might mean the
abdominals. Minor point, probably, but really...

[Kumabjorn]

Re: Single plane

1) --> edshaw

Comes from her native Swedish,"magen" is usually translated as stomach and it includes the abdominals in Swedish (magmuskler).

2) --> cmays

One excellent explanation of the differences between one-planers and two-planers. That one should be made easily available so we don't have to make a search for it when we need it. Is there a "Hall of Fame" for excellent postings?

[edshaw]

Re: Single plane

Thanks, Kumabjorn!

[slater170]

Re: Single plane

Adam:

Sorry no one answered your question.

If you are tall and I like the 6 foot mark on the backswing you swing the club upright in the two plane swing and turn a little to the inside in the backswing your clubhead might be 7 feet from the ball and you have this nice large swing arch.

If you are on the short side and now when you swing upright and the clubhead is 5 foot from the ball you have lost some of your swing arch and to make that up you use depth which means turning more to the inside which we see in the one plane swing.

The shorter player could use a little shorter club and make up what they loose in the arch with leverage. Too long of a club and they have trouble controling it and often hit fat in the one 2 plane upright swing.

The taller player sometimes has the center of gravity too high and they may like to play a one plane swing for balance.

The big chested player has trouble with rotation in the forward swing and it is sometimes better for him/her to play the ball back in the stance.

If you are a right handed player, grip your left thumb with your right hand and roll the back of the left hand towards the ground. If your forearms did not come together, touch, then you need to play the ball back in the stance and you can throw the right hand into the ball which is done from a one plane swing.

Tiger can play the one plane swing, play the ball forward in the stance and allow the forearms to cross over. The big guy here (me) has done flex exercises for all his life and my forearms are not going to cross over. This means I am a hitter versus a swinger.

So we do have options.

The one plane swing is simple. The hands are a tad bit further out at address, the right wrist hinges back early and we swing around the right shoulder allowing the palm of the left hand to face the ground at the top of the backswing.

Taller player which most of the time is on the thin side, ball forward, can rotate around in the forward swing and the shorter player can throw down from the top.

Upright 2 plane swing is not that hard to learn, but you are dealing with returning the back arm to the chest in the downswing and not swinging the shoulders around so you do not swing from the top.

The one plane swinger never has to worry about returning the arm to the chest since the hands remain just above shoulder high in the backswing and for the right handed golfer they keep the right elbow out in front of the body so the can swing around in the downswing.

Helen Alfredson is a good example of the one plane swing, watch the moving swing and early wrist hinge.

1. http://www.golftoday.co.uk/proshop/f...our_swing.html

Now you may read about some one that teaches pulling the lawn mower string back in on the one plane swing. You may find that easy, but I have issues with that method.

A swing should be based on your body type and what works best for you.

Swing speed is Swing speed and if we have tha ball flying off the clubface at a 180 mph it does not matter how we do it as long as we can do it.

For you guys both swings have one thing in common. For the right handed player at the right leg in the backswing the back of the right hand is facing the right leg and the palm of the left hand is facing the right leg and the two planer would feel the left shoulder coming under a little and the two planer feels the left shoulder coming around which stays under the chin and the right shoulkder comes up. In both swings at waist high you can allow the shoulders to take over in both the backswing and downswing.

When I teach the one plane swing we do not have that 90 degree angle at waist high or the hands facing the back leg.

Two plane swingers allow the left arm to slide up the chest in the backswing and one planers bring the left arm in by rotating in the backswing.

Two plane swingers are trying to hold the right wrist angle in the downswing and as long as the one planer is rotating around that angle in the right wrist is being maintained and we can throw the right hand into the shot.

I hope this answers your questions.

nice post cmays
was worth using the search facility!
i am 5' 8" on the stocky side so i am going to try and adopt the one plane swing