hand position vs. lie angles

[killiansred]

Ok this is going to be long winded so here it goes. I keep my hands pretty low to my body and the ball somewhat far away from the edge of my toes which makes the club head visibly more upright. I've been hitting my irons pretty good with this set-up with an occasional few going left, but my driver was a mess very unpredicable. So I started holding my hand a little higher to lower the lie angle of the club to try and get a little flatter head. Problem is now I'm hitting my driver better then ever and my iron play is suffering, the biggest problem is hitting the ball thin. So I was wondering should I stay in this new set up position or go back to my original and have the lie angles changed on my irons. I have a one-plane swing as well.

[Martin Levac]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

Have your irons adjusted properly. The alternative is that they are adjusted improperly.

[Scragger63]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

OR......

Hit your driver with higher hands and remember to go back to lower hands when hitting your irons....

Seems logical...

Cheers

[RandomHero1090]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

I'm spanking the ball with my lie angles adjusted. They were 1* upright, and now they are standard. I am no longer missing left.

If your hands are LOW when you set up with a driver, it could cause you to take the club back too upright. With your driver, what was your ball flight like?

As for irons, you can get away with an upright takeaway. In fact, I have been hitting the ball better than ever since I made my takeaway/backswing more upright.

[BrianW]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

I don't get this higher hands - lower hands. what do you do to make them higher? bend the elbows, straighten the knees or back, push them in and out,

To me there is only one place for the arms and hands at address and that is hanging straight down from the shoulders

[RandomHero1090]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

I don't get this higher hands - lower hands. what do you do to make them higher? bend the elbows, straighten the knees or back, push them in and out,

To me there is only one place for the arms and hands at address and that is hanging straight down from the shoulders

I am assuming to get his hands lower that he is bending more at the waist....

[kbp]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

Hands SHOULD purposely be SLIGHTLY higher for the driver than for the irons. To answer Brian, by higher hands I mean further away from the body, that is, not quite hanging straight down. A VERY slight "reaching". Just a bit. To illustrate, as VERY general rule, with correct posture for the irons, you should be able to put a fist between your front thigh and the butt end of the club at address, the little finger side against your thigh and the middle knuckle of the thumb at the butt of the club). With the driver, make the same fist but extend the thumb, like you’re hitchhiking. With the driver the little finger side of the fist against your thigh and now the tip of your thumb touching the butt of the club. Again, this is not hard and fast rule, but more of generalization to illustrate the difference in hand position for the driver.

V1 Golf Academy

Look at the differnce in Baddeley's arms and hands at address between "video 2" and "video 3" Hands further away from the body with the driver also "raises" them. Note the arms are not hanging straight vertical with the driver.

[killiansred]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

I don't get this higher hands - lower hands. what do you do to make them higher? bend the elbows, straighten the knees or back, push them in and out,

To me there is only one place for the arms and hands at address and that is hanging straight down from the shoulders

what I mean by hands lower is cock the wrist down. For example take your club at your normal address and don't do anything but lower your wrists. And just the opposite when I say raise your hands don't do anything except for throw your wrists up, if that makes sense. I would like to know what should be the proper hand set up this is really confusing to me. Keep in mind I come from the inside with a flatter swing.

[BrianW]

Re: hand position vs. lie angles

Yes, I agree with the hinging of the wrists (not really higher or lower) as i said the arms should hang straight down from the shoulders in their natural position, different length clubs will make you stand nearer or further from the ball thus creating steeper or shallower address planes.