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  • Flat plane

    I am a 12 with a very in-to-out move. I have no problem with distance, but my plane is very flat.

    I tend to hit down very hard and deloft 2+ clubs. I have a low trajectory.

    I suffer from an occasional hook with my long irons. My divots with mid irons point out 30 degrees, but the ball lands just over my shoulder at address. To hit a straight shot, I have to open the face way up.

    I have lots of distance, but need some more accuracy.

    Can I do something about my plane at address, so I don't have to worry about it while I swing? I have slightly more knee bend than average, but this is comfortable and i can do it the same way every time.

    I have long arms (6'2" span, 5'10" height), so I look like an elephant at address. I have had a pro check the loft and lie of my 9 iron and he said it was fine. Meanwhile, I can hit my girlfriends long irons, which are a little shorter (mens reg shafts) quite well.

    Any thought?

  • #2
    Heels,

    This one took a little analysis. The knee bend is the problem if you want to get more to center with your clubs. As you bring your knees up to slightly bent from overly bent and drag the club on the ground to its natural position. You will notice the the deloft come out of the club, the club will go to square and the hips will work less to the inside.

    To get into this position try the grip and posture drill on the home page. It is a big swing change, so you have to ask yourself, do you want to play with it or higher trajectory. That's one I can't answer.

    Hope this helps,

    GolfBald

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    • #3
      Flat Swing Plane

      I will have to agree with one point that Golfbald made, you have too much flex in your knees.

      Because of this you are not bent over enough so your upper torso is excessively erect. This accounts for you swinging to much around your body.

      Do this

      Get a club and stand about 2 feet away from the wall. Now get into your address position. In order to setup properly first bend from the waist(take yourhands and put them on your hips and push back, this will bend your upper torso forward). Feel the weight go towards your toes? it should. After you have completed this step, bend your knees slightly, after you have done this you will feel the weight go from the toes to the balls of your feet. If it goes towards your heels a little bit this is fine.(It is better to have wieght on your heels, rather than your toes)

      That said, now swing the club back halfway(try not to hit the wall) swing slowly. This will correct your plane it will get you to swing the club on a more upright plane. This will also get rid of your hooks.

      Keep me posted

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      • #4
        Well, I took the video camera out the other day, and boy was it horrifying!

        Turns out my posture is good.

        I was snatching the club inside (where a tour pro would be down-line parallel to the ground, my club was inside and low).

        Then I did something even more horrifying. I would shift sideways away from the ball. I always thought this was a turn off the ball. All the while the club on a super flat angle.

        So, I am now working on :
        -a better one-piece takeaway;
        -stable hips;
        -high hands

        It's amazing how flush I am hitting the driver now, but I am hitting pull fades, and can't hit the draw. I have lost some distance too and gained height (although the fairway is nice). I am a little confused about how loose I need to feel and how hard I should try to turn - I can get it to parallel, but I lose control.

        1) How do I stop pulling the ball?
        2) How much torque should I feel in my left shoulder?

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