One Plane Swing and Coming Over the Top

[golfndawg]

Re: One Plane Swing and Coming Over the Top

That article is so misleading and lack details.

Yes if you swung the club back into the backswing on any plane you would not want to turn the shoulders around as the 1st move or action, we need to get the hands lower and then we can rotate or go into your downward swing for a 2 Plane Swing.

2 Plane Swing:

You swing to the top of the backswing and you must have a pulling down action and that action can come from bumping the left hip out or pulling the arms or hands down.

Now that person has a upright swing, but he is rotating the hips around because he is speaking on how to hit a driver.

When the weight is on the left leg you hit downwards and make a divot.

So this person swings to the top of his backswing transfering most of the weigt to the back leg, say 80%.

Any lateral movement to the left would load up the left leg with weight and he would hit the driver downwards.

To prevent the weight transfer to the left he rotates the hips keeping the weight on the right leg and the head behind.

As he rotates the hips that forces the hands down.

The exception is with the driver in a 2 Plane Upright Swing.

In a 1 plane Swing you can start with shoulder rotation, but there also must be the throwing outward of the right hand which also drops the hands down into the downswing and that just happens from swinging back in the proper manner and also allowing the right shoulder to start the downswing and not the left shoulder. The right shoulder going outwards will drop which lowers the arms and hands.

http://www.golfonline.com/golfonline...h0bWw=,00.html

Mr.C

I have dumped alot of things I have been doing in my swing.I have been working pretty hard the last couple of days on the 1ps swing method.Alot of the things you talked about with this type of swing I understand now after seeing and studying...Went to the range to try this out and it couldn't be more easier and haven't lost any distance...Rotate baby rotate...No dipping ,no lunging, no left hip bump.

[takinitdeep]

Re: One Plane Swing and Coming Over the Top

Get rid of the strong grip and you eliminate a reason-not all-for OTT. Also, the strong grip will freeze your wrist hinge.

[takinitdeep]

Re: One Plane Swing and Coming Over the Top

I see wrist freeze all the time and it produces OTT, don't know whether its the chicken or the egg.
Standing with arms hanging down limp then bringing them together will not produce strong grip yet this is where I am parked at the moment-neutral grip. Having fooled too much with my own grip, I see instructors ignore the grip in their teachings because its more lessons for them if they go to the swing mechanics.
What good is overhauling an engine if the driver doesn't know how to switch on the ignition?
Hows that for gobbleygook. I know you understand the hyerglifics(sp)

Dawg:

Dag-Nab-It-Dawg, Some people you just like for some reason and when they take a lesson from me they end up with a nickname and this does not mean I do not like the others, it is something that slips out.

You are like a little rat that runs in and out of the forum and never stating what is wrong.

People are posting Chuck's 1 Plane Swing and if I am not mistaken, getting old now, he teaches left shoulder around in the downswing.

AnyHow! What I wanted to tell you, the little move you make with the back leg before starting the backswing, with a driver you may want to do that move with the front leg. See if there is a difference for you.

Takinitdeep:

You got it. Many instructors where teaching students with the strong grip and not telling them how to free the wrist up.

The instructor was given a routine by his instructor that freed the wrist up, but was never told why that action of freeing up the wrist from the routine happens.

Everyone was happy, the new instructor could go and teach what he learn from the old instructor, but the minute the new student failed to abide by the routine the wrist action would freeze up.

Then both instructor and student was confused on why the students swing was not working.

I do not know, with all this Harry Potter Stuff, maybe this generation can feel the whip with a froozen wrist, but I never had that power.

With a froozen wrist, all I every felt was something like the bunt and run to 1st base, it never did go over the wall that was 300 plus feet out there.

**This routine stuff will not make much sense to most, but 1 action can cause an action of locking up something further as pulling down on an already froozen wrist or you can have a pre-routine action that prevents the wrist from ever become froozen in the 1st place.**

How is that for Speaking in Tongues?

[opiehicks]

Re: One Plane Swing and Coming Over the Top

Hi, I'm new to the site but I read your post and wanted to give you a bit of advice. Remember that with the driver, you are swinging either level or making contact with the ball on the beginning of the upswing, so with a one plane swing, it's easy to pull the ball, especially with the longer clubs. I guarantee this will fix you problem....stand behind your teed ball and look at your target located, obviously at twelve o clock, now place a tee in the ground at about eight o clock, three inches from the ball. Now, take your stance and visualize bringing your driver to the inside of the ball, just in front of the tee--imagine the heel of the driver head passing right in front of the tee, then continue your turn through and around the ball, extending your arms through impact. That should do the trick.
I hope it helps.


Opie Hicks, PGA, USGTF Certified Instructor, NYC

[golfseeker]

Re: One Plane Swing and Coming Over the Top

Hi, I'm new to the site but I read your post and wanted to give you a bit of advice. Remember that with the driver, you are swinging either level or making contact with the ball on the beginning of the upswing, so with a one plane swing, it's easy to pull the ball, especially with the longer clubs. I guarantee this will fix you problem....stand behind your teed ball and look at your target located, obviously at twelve o clock, now place a tee in the ground at about eight o clock, three inches from the ball. Now, take your stance and visualize bringing your driver to the inside of the ball, just in front of the tee--imagine the heel of the driver head passing right in front of the tee, then continue your turn through and around the ball, extending your arms through impact. That should do the trick.
I hope it helps.



Opie Hicks, PGA, USGTF Certified Instructor, NYC

Great tip...thanks. I somtimes put the logo on the tee at the 7:00 position and that helps me hit from the inside.
golfseeker

[robf]

Re: One Plane Swing and Coming Over the Top

Hey, great tips. I was watching the golf channel one day and Ian Poulter does the same thing with his driver. I'll have to try that myself.

thanks,
robf