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I have "The Secret" and have worked with it in my yard on 15- 30 yard pitches, and find it very helpful. However: I am afraid to try it on a full shot for fear of breaking my arms (wrist actually). Also, to get in that position at address without wearing the "Secret" is very awkard, as is the right hand drill. To do so, I have to really lean the shaft forward (Hands even with the ourside of my left leg). This really delofts the club. When doing a full swing with that extreme bow in your right wrist- say the right hand drill - how long after impact are you supposed to try and hold it? I do not see any pros with this bow in their wrist at address. I just feel like I am miss-understanding something.
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Re: Once more: The Secret - Right hand Drill
Relax the right elbow and make sure the right hand is on top of the grip. Let the elbow fold into your right hip. This creates a connection to the elbow and hip while making the hand easier to hold this cupped position.
The 2 straps tension in the wrist and finger can be adjusted so you do not have such an extreme angle. So make it comfortable at setup. You should not have to deloft or have your hands that far forward.
The full swing works just fine with the secret on. Don't be afraid. You have to maintain the cupped position, and this may feel different if you always released it and flipped the wrists around your back into a relaxed state. The secret forces you to never break the cup because chronic swatters need to be forced to this position until they realize what a non-swap feels like. -
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[make sure the right hand is on top of the grip.
Sorry, but are you saying to take a "Weak" grip?Comment
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Re: Once more: The Secret - Right hand Drill
Having the palm of the right (trailing) hand on top of the grip (and over your left thumb) does not weaken the grip. The left (leading) hand is the main "strength" indicator. If it is on top that is strong, rolled to the left is weak. See the right hand's position on top? I also have a strong-ish left hand.
Last edited by GregJWillis; 08-30-2007, 06:42 PM.Comment
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Thanks for the clarification. Just goes to show if one listens, he can learn something each day. I always thought that the hands had to work together so to speak. I.E. if one had a weak grip and rotated the left hand clockwise to strengthen it, the right hand should rotate a like amount. Again thanks.Comment
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I like to think of the action of the trailing hand (right for RH Golfer) as that as the same motion in a proper basketball shot. It curls back over itself.Comment
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[quote=LowPost42;10542449]I like to think of the action of the trailing hand (right for RH Golfer) as that as the same motion in a proper basketball shot.
How about thinking of "'Skipping a rock on water" with the right hand. It is impossible to skip a rock with an "Over the Top" move. One must also maintain the "cup" to effectively skip a rock.
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Hey IRHYPER2:
Looking at the photo in this thread it is clear that Greg's hands are working together and this is one of the musts in golf. Although Gregs grip is somewhat strong with the left hand (really normal by todays standards), the right hand is in a neutral position relative to the left. The crease formed by the thumb and forefinger of both hands should match. In the modern swing with the slightly stronger grip position, those creases should point to the right ear. In Gregs picture he is in the impact position, not address so the hands look different than they would as he initially sets up to the ball.
The key is that the hands have to work together. At address we see a slight cup in both wrists. At impact the left wrist should be flat so logic mandates that the right wrist be cupped more so than at address. A big problem with a strong grip position is the tendency to move the right hand well under the shaft which feels strong but totally deystroys the right hand concept. As Greg shows, his grip is slightly strong, yes ,but really quite conventional and facilitates his now famous right hand drill.Comment
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Good post - all great, and also brilliant use of the word "mandates"!
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I think I am getting real close on how the (right hand drill) (lag in the downswing)(keeping on plane) all that good stuff works.....
It is nothing new and it's been said many times,it's just when is it going to make sense....
On the downswing the butt of the club points at the target line (maybe a little inside or a little outside) and follows that line and when you get to halfway down you're back at parallel to the ground(as on the backswing).....Anyway I believe if that is done correct one has just killed alot of problems because it keeps the right hand cupped(right hand drill),and by keeping the right hand cupped we still have (lag),and we also keep the (club on plane)....I am no teacher and I am always searching but when I did that today the search may be over.....I believe Butch Harmon has a laser deal that shows that....You can even grip a flashlight with the light facing the stomach,lay a club on the target line,swing the flashlight back and follow the shaft with the light.......Just an input.Comment
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(On the downswing the butt of the club points at the target line)
I like that thought. Will try it at the range. Kind the same thing as "pulling with your left side.Comment
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Re: Once more: The Secret - Right hand Drill
Hello All:
To me, the right hand drill simply reduces the emphasis of the "hands" manipulating the rotational force required to square the clubhead. In it's place, the feet, legs, hips, torso & shoulders become the focal point of the release. To many, taking the role of your two most tactile tools and turning the game over to five relatively uncoordinated parts of the anatomy may not make much sense, but much like the nature of golf itself, it is conterintuitive. The reality is, these "other" parts move much more slowly in the swing thus are easier to synchronise.
When I started playing golf I had no instruction whatsoever and my grip was super strong (six nuckles on the left hand, lol) and the right hand positioned well under the grip. Needless to say. swatting was a way of life. Real progress started with my game when, years later, I formed a very sound grip. I still believe this to be the most important fundamental of the game. It was when I made the grip change that I realised the truly fluid nature of the golfswing. It really is like a ball of clay. The change was drastic and took much time to adjust to, but constant attention brought me to the point when positioning my hands comfortably and correctly on the club was second nature. Getting my optimal grip tension level was even more arduous but the payoff was worth it.
Later when I was introduced to Greg's writings and video clips on this site, other facets of the swing began to make sense. Of his many points of wisdom, the impact drill has become as, if not more important to me than the RHD. As I've written, I feel crazy pushed up against the closest doorway like a dog humping the neighbors leg but this drill emphasizes the position required to replicate impact. it is also a great "golf specific" stretching drill. Without understanding the Impact drill, the RHD loses some of it's impact. (bad pun!!!).
As I continue to read posts related to Greg's philosophy of the swing, I want to thank him once again for sharing his insight. Many schools of thought out there but Greg sure has helped me. I think? We'll see how I play tomorrow!Comment
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What is really bad is when you are explaining the impact drill to someone in the elevator, and there you are pushing their shoulders and hips against the wall when the door opens and you both look back to see those unsuspectecting riders just stand there and wait for the door to close...
Thanks Tim for the nice comments, much appreciated!Comment
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