Help me find one of cmays tips.

[arny660]

I was reading a tip on Sat from cmays about the grip - I think he talked about keeping the thumb and fore finger of the right hand tight together. I tried to find it yesterday but couldn`t. Does anyone know what thread it was on or, even better, cmays, could you tell it to me again? It seemed to make a lot of sense.

[arny660]

Re: Help me find one of cmays tips.

Thanks a lot, cmays. Exactly what I was looking for. I read it on Sat and meant to mark it but forgot, then couldn`t find it again.

Cheers.

[takinitdeep]

Re: Help me find one of cmays tips.

You lost me on this part 1st four lines about the round bone of left thumb going down into the back portion of the right hand between the fat pads, can you explain so my simple mind can understand please.
Thanks

Arny:

If you are a right hander bend the left thumb down into the palm of the hand. Reverse if lefty.

At the bottom of the thumb you will feel a rounded bone.

Stick the rounded bone in the back potion of the right hand between the fat pads. You can go ahead and form your grip. Very light pressure on the rounded bone.

Now hinge the wrist backwards.

The little rounded bone can act like a hinge and aid in hinginging.

Any pressure on the hands comes from the side of the left thumb and the right hand. Very light, just enough to feel the hands staying together,

While you are playing with the hands hinge them back and add great pressure to the little finger of the right hand. Notice the hands want to hinge back down.

One reason people do not have a good wrist hinge in the backswing is because they have the little finger of the right hand on too tight. The same can happen with the left little finger, too much pressure, poor wrist hinge.

Relax the hands, nice soft pressure and now you can feel the hands hinging up and down freely. Hinge them up and down out in front of you sitting there, see how fast you can make them hinge.

The more relax you can keep things in the hand and keep the hands together as one unit the faster the club will fire and the forearms and shoulders remain tension free during the swing.

I like to see light pressure from the sides, not the top or bottom, just like touching the palms together. Notice I said touching, not hard pressure.

Greg Willis said to bend from the hips, arms hang relax downwards and reach out to put the hands together. If the thumbs touch and the palms separate you will need to work on a grip that keeps the palms together.

No pressure on the top of the left thumb and I do not like to see pressure on the right index finger.

There is more to the grip then all this. Give you a quick one:

If your hands are right on the grip and you brought the club back in the backswing with the hands being correct, in the downswing, you can slowly push down on the left thumb and the club can gain lots of speed.

If the thumb hurts with the push or the ball flys to the right then your grip is wrong or something in the backswing.

Nice soft connected hands that will allow the wrist to hinge. When we (myself and the ones I teach) push down on the thumb in the downswing it directs the clubface and also allows for rotation of the clubhead.

I work from the little swing circle, not the big one and trying to play with the clubhead.

[takinitdeep]

Re: Help me find one of cmays tips.

look at your post, I think you have the right and left mixed up.
I still don't get it, but I don't need to since I am happy with my swing, grip, game and results. I played last week using only my right hand on the grip for driver but normal grip for everything else and shot 76. 26 putts, 100% up and down's, 80% G
IR's. Not that I can't learn more but for the last 6 years, hdcp is way under 5 and its easy as pie.
I am going to senior q school and will write from the champions tour. Take care and sleep well.

Back in the old days people who over-hinged in the back swing would play the left thumb more down in the right hand.

At the base of the left thumb when you have it bent down you will feel a rounded little bone, not a perfect rounded bone, but it sticks out. They used that as an hinge.

There is never a deliberate wrist hinge in the back swing for a 3/4 and full shot.

Most people when they grip the club, hold it at waist high and try to lower it, the club head will not lower very much. Improper use of the hands and wrist and they must learn all kinds of skills to hit the ball.

Go to Conor's Swing that he has posted, this section "My Swing as Promised." He has posted his new grip.

Look at his left hand grip and thumb, the line down the middle of the thumb.

I call this the Half On, Half Off Position.

Do the same and you should feel the wrist hinging up and down freely.

Very simple swing concept.

A very good way to learn the swing, he could start adding a little pressure on the left thumb in the downswing and everything becomes automatic.

Then for the more advance golfer you can go into left and right handed grip adjustments and how they have an effect on body actions, if we swing or throw the right hand in as hard as we can w/o hitting fat.

If the left palm is facing towards you, thumb up and you swing the arm up and down, there is no wrist release. If you have the left palm hinged, there is no wrist release unless you throw the left hand outwards. This is why in my 1st post to him, I said; "his left hand was in a release position."

[bulldog2k]

Re: Help me find one of cmays tips.

I am going to senior q school a

Seriously? Or did I miss something?

If so, all the best with this - would be a fantastic read for us dreamers back here on the forum!