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  • Has this happened to you!!

    I hope that the information, which I am about to relay may be helpful to many. Some of you may have had a similar experience and, will relate to my post. You have my sympathy. If you have not had the misfortune, to share my experience, then you are lucky. I'm UK based but, I'm sure, similar scenarios have occurred, throughout the world. Here goes.

    After an 11 year break from golf, due to a back problem, I started to play again, in September 2002. I had forgotten a lot and felt that regular lessons were required. I went to a local pro, who, after about 5 lessons, felt that I was capable of playing to a 14-18 handicap. After more lessons, I, eventually, felt confident enough to join my local golf club, which I did in mid-June 2003.

    By the end of August, I had gradually been cut to 18 (started at 24). My best score was 13 over. My game was in reasonable shape and it looked as though my goal of getting to a 16 handicap by the end of 2003 was easily attainable. I needed more work on my short game but, I had only been back to the game for less than a year, so was happy with the progress which I had made so far.

    It was then that I made a big mistake. In September, I deserted my local pro and attended a couple of courses with a teaching pro, who claims to have "The Holy Grail" golf swing. He was so intent on teaching his concept that, any swing faults, which we all have, from time to time, were just a trifling obstruction in our voyage to golf swing Nirvana. As long as us pupils followed his teaching of the golf swing, all faults would be eradicated. WRONG!!!!!!

    To cut a long story short, my game fell apart. By the end of November, my handicap had gone up to 19. On one round, my card was 35 over!! In the 3 month period that I adopted this
    "swing guru's" method, my score cards were, on average, 22-33 over. I played to an 18 handicap just twice during this period. I never once played below my official handicap. I play 2-3 times per week, so you can understand how badly my game started to disintegrate.

    In desperation, I returned to my local pro at the end of December. He, immediately, identified a couple of problems. I was no longer coiling away from the ball plus, my weight transference was out of sync

    The good news is that I am hitting it further and straighter than I have been for the past 4 months. I played last Sunday, on a frozen course, with temporary greens. If five of my putts hadn't hit frozen wormcasts, I would have carded 12 over, instead of the 17 over that I recorded.

    To conclude this post, I have one piece of advice which I hope will be of help to all of you. If you find a pro who really helps your game, i.e. who brings about better ball striking, reduced score etc., don't get seduced by some supposed "swing guru" who claims to have the ultimate answer to the mystery of the golf swing. Your local pro is probably as good, if not better, than those who claim to hold the "Holy Grail" in their hands.

    you can shoot lower!!!

    Alan
    Last edited by AlanN; 01-28-2004, 04:37 PM.

  • #2
    Alan,

    Glad to hear that you're back on the straight and narrow!

    Although I haven't come across one of these "swing gurus" I can imagine what you mean. I'm now retired and don't want to swing like Tiger Woods!

    One thing that puzzles me is this talk of the modern swing - how does it vary from the one I learnt from Ben Hogan's "Modern Fundamentals" book? If anyone knows the answer I'd certainly like to hear it

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    • #3
      Swing Guru's

      I ran into the same kind of guys 3 years ago. I was stagnate in my game. I was happy with my 220 - 240 yard drives and outstanding short game. I played to about a 12 -15 hcp. Most people told me, for a 6' tall 225 lb. guy you should hit farther than that. I didn't care, really. (I'm down to 200 lbs. now!)

      I thought more and thought I would take a few lessons, couldn't hurt. I hooked up with a guy who could teach me during my lunch hour. 3 free lessons! I took the lessons and I saw no improvement, I wasn't looking for a bandaid but everything he taught me was not in alignment with what I had read or seen on videos. I took 5 more lessons, I practiced the changes everyday before work and after to get this down. Someone walked up to me one day and said, your trying Buddy Reno's method, you poor thing. I guess he had a reputation of screwing up many swings.

      I went back to the drawing board after a year of Buddy. I got Mike Austin's tape and learned his method. I finally found something that works. In 2 years I went from 220 to over 300 yards and I don't feel I swing hard only efficiently. That was 2 years of hard work. Now I have my short game back in line and a long game to match. I am presently improving on fairway wedges under 100 yards since I end up there a lot.

      I talk to Mike Austin quite often, he is my new teacher! You can get to where you want to in this game. You just need a good roadmap to get there. A good teacher is worth their weight in gold. I haven't kept handicap rounds recently as I am breaking in a new set of clubs and a few minor swing changes, I'll start in Feb. I think it will be very good as the changes in fairway woods are taking hold. I will be working with the new 50" driver next week after the PGA Show in Florida.

      Perfect practice makes perfect. Don't keep repeating bad habits is my advice.

      GolfBald

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      • #4
        A shared experience

        Hi Golfbald & Marcutin,

        I really hope that many people read this thread.

        Sorry Marcutin, I don't know how the modern golf swing differs from that of Ben Hogan. I would have thought that they were very similar but, I'm sure that some of the more learned members can expand on this.

        I would have saved myself a lot of time and frustration had I not been lured by "the magic of the golf swing revealed" hype. As this so-called swing guru was located within a 30 minute drive of my home. I couldn't believe how "lucky" I was. Big mistake.

        I feel that I wasted four months, trying to construct the perfect swing. I have no beef with the concept as such but, we golfers are an odd bunch. We come in all shapes and sizes and, even age groups. Would you believe that? Quite incredible. It's something that these wannabe "swing gurus" don't take into consideration.

        Thanks to my local pro, I am back on the straight and narrow. My drives have become straighter and I can, regularly, get to 280 yds + (not too bad for a 61 year old). I really want to get to a single figure handicap within the next 2 years. Am I dreaming? Maybe but, I intend to go for it, before I'm too old!!!

        What I do know is that developing a smooth swing, with a pronounced coil away from the ball and, correct weight transference has positively transformed my ball striking. My swing was, basically, sound until the "guru" took me under his wing. In case anybody wants to ask the question. No, I don't believe in Father Christmas any more!!!

        Golfbald, I know that you are a fan of Mike Austin. As I may have mentioned before, I could not get to grips with his technique (some months ago). What I didn't realise, at that time, was that I had developed swing faults that could not be corrected by watching a video. Once I feel that I have totally eradicated the swing faults, I will go back to it. There is no doubt, in my mind, that his principles of the golf swing are sound.

        best regards,

        Alan

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        • #5
          Alan,

          If you are smacking it 280 at age 61 you are ahead of most golfer I know at half you age. That is fantastic. There is no reason you can not be a single hcp player. People once told me I couldn't hit a ball 300 yards either. Now I laugh at them!

          At any age, never let anyone tell you you can do something, they will just be removing their foot from their mouth later. If you want something bad enough you can get there!

          GolfBald

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          • #6
            ME TOO!

            I have had my share of bad teachers; don't believe the adage that there are no bad teachers just bad students. They are a dime a dozen and everybody thinks they can teach but very few really can.
            I am a student of Rick Smith and while very traditional his methods worked for me. I am a 3 now and at 58 yrs. old regularily outplay guys half my age from the back tees.
            Find one teacher that suits your mindset and stick with it.

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            • #7
              Student/Teacher combo

              I do a fair bit of teaching. I am very selective of my students as my students are of me. I have had people come to me and refuse to practice, I tell them find another teacher. I have students that can't take constructive critisism, I tell them find another teacher. I have students that even after seeing their swing on video tape don't want to admit it's a problem, I tell them find another teacher. If someone truely wants to make a change in their game I will help them, I don't waste my time or theirs if they are not ready to commit to lessons and I tell them up front. I don't want them to spend a dollar of their money if I can't do what I say I can.
              I usually have no more than 2 students at a time. I like quality over quantity.

              Just some thoughts from the otherside of he fence,

              GolfBald

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