Shaft Importance?

[Mr Qwag]

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I believe a change in sharft could really help you out. I was in your same boat, hitting the ball around 250 and after the shaft change I immediately hit the ball 280+. so in my opinion it cant hurt.

[BrianW]

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"Like he said my swing is very unusual because im hitting it good and getting a great launch angle but i cant produce any spin and he said the nvs would help with that. "

IMO logic suggests that you need more loft on the driver. If you are happy with the launch angle but not the spin then changing the shaft will not really help. Loft will create spin, the angle the clubface approaches the ball will create the initial launch angle.

Also IMHO most club golfers don't need extra stiff shafts and low lofted drivers, there is nothing wrong with using a 12 deg with a regular flex shaft if it helps your game. Most guys don't mind using a 3 wood for consistency but feel a higher lofted driver is somehow limp wristed.

Just an observation though, it's really your call what you use.

[LowPost42]

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You'd be surprised how far i actually do hit the ball.

Not everything has to be explained by numbers.

Have you and I locked horns before? Or was it someone else? At any rate...


I re-read your post. Did you notice if your SS went up or down when you tried to kill it?

I've personally noticed a 10mph difference between trying to turn quickly but smoothly and trying to kill it (ie muscle it out there). Killing it is always slower - always. As I'm sure we've all heard/read, tense muscles are slow muscles.

So it very well could be that your on-course SS is higher than the 93MPH that you produce when killing it. This would also raise your carry towards the 250 range.

Now, all this said, have you ever used some technology to actually confirm your distances? Most days I play, I carry my drive 240 yards (GPS and laser verifed) with a 102-104 MPH SS. Rarely do I nut my driver, but my PTR number must be pretty good - close to 1.4 for those drives.

I'll agree that not everything has to be explained by numbers, but numbers, like video, don't lie. And numbers, like video, can certainly explain a lot.

Obviously the job of a proper driver fitting is to give you the most distance you can get - and this is based on numbers.

[LowPost42]

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"Like he said my swing is very unusual because im hitting it good and getting a great launch angle but i cant produce any spin and he said the nvs would help with that. "

IMO logic suggests that you need more loft on the driver. If you are happy with the launch angle but not the spin then changing the shaft will not really help. Loft will create spin, the angle the clubface approaches the ball will create the initial launch angle.

Also IMHO most club golfers don't need extra stiff shafts and low lofted drivers, there is nothing wrong with using a 12 deg with a regular flex shaft if it helps your game. Most guys don't mind using a 3 wood for consistency but feel a higher lofted driver is somehow limp wristed.

Just an observation though, it's really your call what you use.

More loft will increase both launch angle and spin. If gatorguy is trying to maintain his LA while increasing spin, a higher lofted driver would mean changing his swing. However, I think more loft would equal more distance all around.

[gatorguy146]

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The guy tested me in more loft and it didn't increase my distance, like I said I'm just looking for a higher ball flight I dont even really care about the spin ratings, he tried me in a 10.5 and it didn't gain me any distance because the launch angle was too high although it did increase the spin.

The guy went over and over different options, different clubs, different club heads, square drivers, the new sasquatch, he went through everything.

We both came to the decision taht I needed the lower kick poitn shaft with a softer tip. He said to either get the graffaloy high launch or the aldila NVS and he recommended the NVS because it's made by the same company and woudl feel very similar to the NV I had which is for faster swing speeds and lower ball flight.

[golfseeker]

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Today I went out to Golf Discount because I wanted to see if a different shaft would help with my ball flight on my driver. Every other club is perfect, but my driver has a generally low ball flight which is costing me some distance. I had an aldila NV 65 stiff shaft in my Nike Sasquatch Tour, which the guy said reduces spin, and the NV has a higher kick point. He said I have a very unusual situation in that my launch angle is perfect but I don't generate enough spin and that's why my flight is so low. After hitting drives for about 30 minutes he had me get the aldila nvs which has a lower kick point and should help generate more spin and get me a better ball flight. He said it would feel about the same as my shaft I have right now but the ball flight will be much better.

Just wondering if you guys think I made the right decision and if the shaft is really important, which I think it is.

Thanks.

I changed out shafts (regular flex) in both the Callaway FT3 and Cleveland Hi-bore drivers with a stiff UST ProForce V2 (stiff) and the difference was remarkable. I really believe that the shafts that come with the original equipment are probably low-end quality. I gained on average 30 to 50 yards off the tee and straight down the middle. In my mind and other people that I have talked to have found that the shaft is the key to better distance and direction. Golf pro's have told me the same thing.

The cost of the installation of the UST ProForce into the Callaway was $117 (US) including taxes and shipping (the original shaft was a Adilia NVS). The original Cleveland Hi-bore shaft was a Fujikara and I replaced it myself for about $70. So the cost was not nearly as much as a new driver would cost. I am extremely pleased with the results thus far.

[gatorguy146]

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Yeah, thats the way I feel. I didn't want to buy a new driver, and I really like the one I have now. The Aldila NV is made for players with higher swing speeds and higher ball flight because it is more of a low flight shaft. The NVS is supposed to give higher ball flights which is all I am asking because the low ball flights are the only thing killing my distance right now.

[gatorguy146]

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Alright so I finally got my driver back and got to go out and play today.

I'll say I'm kinda half and half agreeing with you guys. I mean yeah it didn't take me from a low ball flight to a very high one, but it definitely improved it and heightened the ball flight a enough to where I could for sure see a difference. I'm glad I did it, I was very accurate with it today and the distance was pretty good but it was hard to judge if it was increased or not because it was only about 40 degrees today.

A good decision in my book though.

[golfndawg]

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Wuz up,

Are you perhaps here in the lonestar state, Houston area?

[gatorguy146]

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I wish I lived somewhere down south, but I live in St. Louis, Missouri.

Just wish the weather would stop being so weird so I could play more golf lol.

[Cliff]

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Just wondering if you guys think I made the right decision and if the shaft is really important, which I think it is.

Just tee it higher and hit the ball on the up like all the pro's..

But I would go see a pro first to make sure your shaft/kick point/loft is ok for you. Each to his own you could say.

Go and get a fitting preferably when you are playing well, to many golfers go to stores and buy a new club when all they need is confidence/repetition/ a beer in there belly!

The optimum for carry and roll out is between 35% and 40% from the top of the flight to the floor.
If you are say 46% from the top of its ark to the floor you are hitting it to high, conversely if you are say 30 % then you are not getting the ball high enough to maximize your distance.


Regards Cliff

[Cliff]

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Hi BrianW Great launch angle but i cant produce any spin!!!


The lower the spin the better ! You could try cleaning the face of the club lol...

[gatorguy146]

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I'm loving the new shaft. It's definitely hitting the ball higher and farther. For some reason I have been a lot more accurate in the couple rounds I played. Maybe it's more confidence idk, frankly I don't want to know as long as it keeps happening lol.

[LowPost42]

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I'm loving the new shaft. It's definitely hitting the ball higher and farther. For some reason I have been a lot more accurate in the couple rounds I played. Maybe it's more confidence idk, frankly I don't want to know as long as it keeps happening lol.

Long live the honeymoon!

[BrianW]

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I'm loving the new shaft. It's definitely hitting the ball higher and farther. For some reason I have been a lot more accurate in the couple rounds I played. Maybe it's more confidence idk, frankly I don't want to know as long as it keeps happening lol.

Are you sleeping with it yet

Problem is that golf clubs can be like women, they love us and wish to please during the honeymoon period then suddenly they start to become disagreeable with a mind of their own.

At least they don't have mothers though