Power

[Letham]

Many years ago at Gleneagles I watched Bob Torrance teach Wayne Grady.
The paramount feature of that lesson was the left arm tucked in by way of a towel or hankerchief from the start to finish of the swing. I have tried it - certainly gives control but reduces distance. Any comment.

[Ian Hancock]

Re: Power

Hi Lethem,

Good thread, we have had a thread ages ago about this very thing.

Personally I think it's does nothing for the swing in general maybe pitching practice. VJ used it a lot but he practices with every gadget going.

Not for me thanks.....couldn't even swing..


Ian.

[bonzi_532]

Re: Power

I would find it impossible to swing this way

[ph_kingston]

Re: Power

Bear in mind that this was almost certainly a drill to create a "feeling" in the swing and promote muscle memory. These sort of drills profoundly exaggerate the desired effect. There was probably something extremely specific they were working on so I wouldn't try to copy it myself.

I think Vijay does something similar as his swing is so languid that he's trying to keep his left arm controlled

[Rackster]

Re: Power

Guess who uses this "connection" drill.

Golf Monthly - Instruction - Glove drill – tip by Padraig Harrington

[bill reed]

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hi rackster
no suprise in padraig using the glove drill as he has been using bob torrance as a trainer for over 10 years and just changed a towel as in wayne grady's time to a glove in padrig's. bob torrance has always said teach the player and not the swing and keeping the head still is one of his main teachings, just ask his son sam.
bill

[ubizmo]

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Coincidentally, this connected left arm is one of the peculiarities of the "Simple Swing" that I've begun experimenting with. The basic idea seems to be that the left arm movement somewhat mirrors the movement of the right arm in the downswing. The right elbow stays connected, then straightens before impact. The left arm is straight at impact, then bends as the wrists turn. As it bends the elbow stays in and doesn't chicken wing out. Then it separates from the body.

I can't hit a ball this way yet, but the feeling is very constricted. I think, however, that this move somehow maximizes the angular momentum through impact. There's a feeling of incredible, and unexpected, speed through the impact zone. It's a question of controlling it.

[cyc53870]

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After 5 struggling years, my swing keeps improving... Maybe that's some sorta guarantee it'll be better after five more years? I give myself great marks for accuracy but much to be desired in distance...

[Rackster]

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It is right there in the forearms and hands for the taking.


Turn and Hinge.

Hi C Mays / Golf One

Sorry if I am sounding simple here, but when you say "turn and hinge", I would say obviously you hinge the wrists, with the turn, do you mean the forearms as opposed to the body turn?

I have just been having a swing in the garden (was due to go for a practice session and game last night but yet more rain in the UK) and I noticed the following. An error of mine at set up is that my hands at address are often behind the ball. During my garden swinging session, I pushed my hands forward at address either from the static position or as a forward press. This I notice introduced more rotation of the left forearm in the swing, I did not have to think about rotation at all in the swing, and I have to say the swing seemed very smooth and generated a good "swoosh" through the growing lawn grass. Is this what you sometimes refer to as setting the rotation at address? I did a load of Hogan half swings back and forth and got some real good feelings.

Whether it works with a ball remians to be seen.

Thanks

Rackster

[Rackster]

Re: Power

Rackster, Turn and Hinge is a method to shorten Mike Austin's Swing process.

1. MikeAustinGolf.com :: View topic - 1 Page/ Austin's Swing

In my Turn and Hinge Method and the long and drawn out method of what Austin's folks where learning it is important to have the back foot droped back at address for balance so you can swing full force versus just holding the swing around 80% in the downswing.

You also need to understand lag. Joe Dante went into clubhead positions in the downswing, but I always felt he was a little short or lacked detail.

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In what you are doing with the forward press you may find that with the hands too far forward from the forward press that you shorten the backswing and hit down steeper.

If that is the case, do the forward press and bring the hands back to the center of the body which will also move the clubface back away from the ball at addresss.

A forward press allows the palm of the left hand for the right hander to face the body so you can go directly into the backswing versus the old slide back method to the right leg at which time the palm would turn towards the body and then you can go into the backswing.

If you do not want to forward press and bring the hands back to center, slide the clubhead straight back about 4 inches while holding it in the right/back hand, turn the butt end of the club to the left/front leg and then grip it with the left hand and then the right hand from that position. Same as a forward press.

Thanks C Mays i'll give that a go.

The weather is beginning to improve here so hopefully back on the range and course soon

[Avid Golfer]

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Many years ago at Gleneagles I watched Bob Torrance teach Wayne Grady.
The paramount feature of that lesson was the left arm tucked in by way of a towel or hankerchief from the start to finish of the swing. I have tried it - certainly gives control but reduces distance. Any comment.

How much of a distance loss did you experience?

It was tucked under the armpit (not all the way to the elbow) correct?

Many pros through out history have done that drill (including but not limited to Nick Faldo, Vijay Singh, Padraig Harrington, Charles Howell III, Peter Jacobsen, Nick Price, and Annika Sorenstam).

It has a lot of merit: It keeps the arms and body synchronized, which in turn can help eliminate issues with timing, loss of power, and loss of accuracy.

Back when I first started using it I found it increased my distance.