Push/Fading my Driver!

[elguapogurn]

Been hitting my driver well at the range lately. That is until this week. All of a sudden I'm pushing the ball to the right (right handed)and it's fading slightly (usually into the woods). I've been really trying to swing from the inside out lately. This usually resulted in a straight, long shot. But this push/fade thing is going long, but way right.

Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?

Thanks for any help!

[BrianW]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

A push is where you are swinging inside out with the clubface square to the swingpath. A push fade is where you swing in to out with the clubface open to the swingpath.

You will need to work on closing the clubface through impact.

[elguapogurn]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

That's exactly what I was thinking. I tried to fix it by trying to close the club, and ended up snap hooking a few shots. But I may have been overcompensating so I didn't go right again.

Another thought I had was that I was over exagerating my inside/out swing. For example, if my target line made a straight line on a clock, it would go from 6 to 12. And I try to make my swing go from 7 to 1. What would happen if I swung from 7 to like 2? Would that cause a push/fade?

Thanks for the reponse!

[scampbell]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

I was reading your post and recently shared the same ball flight/direction issues as you. When I finally got with my pro he reminded me that the golf swing is an arch. When you swing from the inside through contact you eventually have to get back to the inside again (past impact).

I was so focused on swinging inside out that the path of the club was not returning along its natural arch. In doing this I would push right or compensate with a wrist flip and hook the ball. Bring your club back to the inside post impact and you will straighten right up.

Hope it helps

[elguapogurn]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

Thanks Again guys! Just need to go to the range and see if I can make the necessaey adjustments now.

[golfshooter]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

Hi Guys, I am still a novice and have the same fade problems with my drivers. I do not understand your references to 'out to in' and 'in to out' arc. Can someone please explain them so that I can attempt to remedy the problem?
Currently, if the target is at 12:00 I am having to aim at about 10:00. The problem gets worse with graphite shafts.

Yep, its a funny ol' game.

I did get a third today in my club comp. though, so I'm a very happy boy!

[golfshooter]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

Thankyou golfinguy28.
The diagram was very helpful and I think I get it now. The ball travels towards 10 and then has a late swing to 12. Is there a training technique I can use? It's hard to self-diagnose the swing.

[BrianW]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

Thankyou golfinguy28.
The diagram was very helpful and I think I get it now. The ball travels towards 10 and then has a late swing to 12. Is there a training technique I can use? It's hard to self-diagnose the swing.

You may find this article I posted some time ago helpful in explaining shot shapes.

http://www.golf-tuition-online.com/c...t-shaping.html

[Shamed04]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

If you are struggling with hitting fades your are swinging out to in...Focus on how your club comes back on your backswing and make sure the clubhead is just inside of that on your downswing

[BrianW]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

If you are struggling with hitting fades your are swinging out to in...Focus on how your club comes back on your backswing and make sure the clubhead is just inside of that on your downswing

You could be swinging in to in with an open clubface also.

[golfshooter]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

thanks to all,i can now hit a usefull fade and a straight shot ,the rest will come with practice.

[BrianW]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

not really. A fade travels left and then right, the only way it is going to go left is to have some out to in on it. in to in with open face makes a slice.

I have to correct you here:

An out to in swing will hit the ball to the left (a push) if the clubface is square to the path, in this case it is the same action as a straight or pulled shot depending on the way the swing arc is directed. An open clubface will impart right hand side spin that will cause the ball to veer to the right as the initial velocity slows.

Taking this into account a fade is where the clubface is slightly open and it is possible to hit a push, pull or straight fade depending on swing path. If the clubface is open wider then a push, pull or straight slice will result. The same for the Hook and draw, it can be a push, pull or straight hook/draw depending on how much the face is closed relative to swingpath.

[golfshooter]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

My shots with the 3 and 5 clubs are accurate and go the distance yet I cannot get the number 1 to stop fading. It is a fade because it starts off relatively straight drifting to the right and as it slows goes sharp right then spins right as it hits the ground. I've tried all sorts of swings but it always feels like I'm "swiping" across the ball.
I'm thinking that it may be too long or am I mistaken in my logic? Is there a correct length for drivers as compared to the persons height?
Thanks

[AussieGolfBoy]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

how stiff is the shaft in your driver compared to your 3 and 5 woods. easy way to tell is to put the club head on the ground and push down onto the shaft... watch the bow and feel the flex through your hand.

if your other clubs are going straight and it's only your driver thats fading off then it could be too soft for you.

for me i use a stiff shaft and my normal shot is preety straight. i can fade and i can draw... however when someone gives me a regular shaft'd driver the ball will go straight in the air for about 100m then shoot right... the only way to stop this is by slowing down your swing.. you lose distance but improve accuracy.

FYI this is only 1 thing of many that could be the cause of your delema

[LowPost42]

Re: Push/Fading my Driver!

My shots with the 3 and 5 clubs are accurate and go the distance yet I cannot get the number 1 to stop fading. It is a fade because it starts off relatively straight drifting to the right and as it slows goes sharp right then spins right as it hits the ground. I've tried all sorts of swings but it always feels like I'm "swiping" across the ball.
I'm thinking that it may be too long or am I mistaken in my logic? Is there a correct length for drivers as compared to the persons height?
Thanks

Chances are the shaft is wrong for your swing and the clublength is incorrect as well.

As for this business of fade/slice/in/out/up/down/sideways stuff, the average amateur hits a pull-slice. Their swing path is out to in with a face open to the path (and usually open to the target).

GG28 has laid it out nicely for the '9 ball flight laws', but it's pretty simple: A face open to the swing path will have the ball fade off the swing line, a face closed to the swing path will have the ball draw off the swing line, and a face square to the swing path will have a ball stay on the swing line. Your swing line will determine push/pull/straight. (GJS, leave me alone! LOL I still maintain FA at impact largely dictates shot direction!)