golf clock

[bill reed]

hi
did anyone see dave pelz on the golf channel the other night talking about a golf clock. for any that did not see it here how it goes, all greens slop some, the have to so water can run off and not puddle as over time a puddle will sink that part of green. dave plez's says all green have a clock on them and 12 oclock it at the high end and 6 oclock at the bottom, from 11 to 1 oclock is amber and from 5 to 7 oclock is green.
red is from 2 to 4 oclock and from 8 to 10 oclock. so when pitching or chipping to a green you have to look for the clock. when you know where 12 oclock is then you know where to chip you ball, you want the ball in the amber or the green but not on the red zone, with an amber putt you putting down hill and it can run past a bit, a green put is uphill and is the easy putt as you can hit it a bit harder, with both the red putts you putting across the break and the ball will turn more and makes it a harder putt, the thing with the clock is you can give yourself a 30% more chance of makinng a putt using the clock system then just chipping to the hole.
the why he tells is makes it so simple and does make a lot of sence too. hope you understand what i mean,
bill

[LowPost42]

Re: golf clock

A new Pelz theory to me, but makes perfect sense. Find the best spot on the green to chip to.

I wonder if crazy hole locations change the clock layout, or if it's solely based on the construction of the green?

[bill reed]

Re: golf clock

hi lowpost
what plez was saying that most handicapers play to the hole with short chips and pitches without thinking about the green and its slope and only thinking of being near the hole. using the clock system and thinking of the high point as 12 o-clock and the low as 6 o-clock then you start to think more about the target where you want ball to start running and where you want the ball to run along and get you to a point where you have just a one putt, you aim to have the ball end up in the amber or green and not in the two putt zone the red, the hole aim is to have a easy putt and the uphill putts best and the downhill the second best as both wont break much, the ones in the red have breaks and are missed 30 more than the other two. the system works on greens with very little slope to ones the drop a few feet, he explaned it lot better than i ever can but it was a new one to me and think it might be from his newish book, control management.
i have not seen it on sale here in uk yet but is on sale in usa.
bill

[bdbl]

Re: golf clock

Tom Watson talks about a chip actually being a chip and a putt and that therefore you should chip to were you want the putt to start - so the new Pelz idea makes sense and provides a mental image to go with it.

The problem is - and call me an old cynic if you like - but I can see it just it adding to the horrendous length of rounds these days.

How often have you followed a four ball who aren't playing that well but when they get to the green each of them goes though a routine that suggests that this putt is for the Master's?

I can just see the same group working out where 12 is ....and as Dale Winton might say, trying to stay out of the red area.

[LowPost42]

Re: golf clock

I hear ya, bdbl.

I flip-flop between being agitated regarding these fellows, and wondering if we all shouldn't play this way - if we have or are trying to develop the skill.

Obviously some of the keys to scoring well involve getting it close when missing the green - and that involves reading the green the way Pelz advises (even in his Short Game Bible): Find your landing area, and account for roll. In the SGB, Pelz discusses the effect of landing your ball on the flat, on the downslope, and on the upslope (and the affecting run after landing).

As for routines, I'm all for them for every shot - including putts. Just try to keep them under 5 minutes.

[bdbl]

Re: golf clock

I should of course have said

when they get to the green each of them goes though a routine that suggests that this putt is for the Master's and then miss anyhow

LP, yes, you are right routines are required, are desirable and help our golf.

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, a variation of which some people I see out must suffer from, is a different matter*, there is just no justification for a round of golf to wipe out so much time.

On the same theme people, if you spend a lot of time looking for lost balls then buy some cheap ones and move on like I do (the one you find will be unplayable anyhow!) if you can't do that then let me through please.

Guess who's had a few slow rounds lately


* PS Apologies to those who suffer from or know those who suffer from OCD - I know its not a laughing matter.

[bill reed]

Re: golf clock

hi i dont think it should ever take more than 5 mins to read a green as the more you look the more you see and the harder it gets lol.
bill