Slicing 3 Wood?

[GregJWillis]

Re: Slicing using the right hand drill

Releasing fully simply extends the wrist position from the up (cocked position) to the down (released position). Having the secret on does allows this to happen without restriction just fine. What you find is that without it on, there is always a little sneaking going on, which should not have too bad of an effect.

Pictures of a good swing at impact will look like the right hand is straight, but never past impct.

Remember that the trainning aid (and any aid for that matter) is really for those that cannot replicate the correct move/position/concept that the aid is trying to isolate. Once removed, your memory of that feeling (completly restricting only that one concept) will always be incorporated into your normal swing in %'s. 50% is a good number to shoot for. Doing it exactly every time is of course the goal, and usually only obtailable over many many hours of play and practice.

[ThePuttKing]

Re: Slicing using the right hand drill

I'm hoping to buy "The Secret" in the next few days.

I played today and :

Driving : Only missed 2 fairways, the ability to aim left on tight driving holes and fade the ball back - helped.

Fairways Woods - Great

Long Irons - Terrible slices with a 4 iron on 2 holes

Mid Irons / Wedges - Good

I think my bad slice shots were due to open shoulders at address. I squared my shoulders up on my last iron shot and drew the ball.

[learning]

Re: Slicing using the right hand drill

You mentioned Fairway woods, any drills for those would be helpfull, I allways hear it is a sweeping motion, which I always end up swaying to try to reproduce. Some times I get lucky using the setup for a drive off of the tee and at the last minute shift my setup so the ball is 2 inches back so the bottom of my swing cathces it nice. When this work it is sweet!! but most of the time, there is no control, or either topped or chunck of dirt. Any advice would be appreciated. One thing that has helped using the right hand drill is I have been using the 3 and 4 iron on my second shot. I have had a little more control with them but I come up way short on long par 4s and 5s.


Ok thanks

[Simon Woo]

I know a lot of beginners suffer from this, and a lot has been asked and written about this, but I have a curious problem here. The thing is, I never had this problem from day one till the past 5 months since I've picked up golf. Right from the beginning, I have been hitting straight shots with my irons.

However, I have recently started to slice the ball, and I can't for the life of me figure out why this is so! Yes I've been trying to make adjustments to my swing (mainly trying to find out how to get that addition 30-40yds I need per club), but what could be making me turn from a straighting hitting beginner into a slicing not to beginner?

So instead of just trying to find a cure for the slice, I'm really more curious how this could have come about???

[LowPost42]

Re: Slicing

In your quest for distance, you may have started trying to kill the ball. This can promote a multitude of problems, including casting, early release, and choking the club open, to name a few.

[pgmetcalf]

Re: Slicing

I think a lot of the trouble with slicing begins at the very start of the downswing, especially when trying to add distance. Most amatuers think that the faster and harder the swing is, the further the ball will travel. Their tendancy is to try and muscle the ball around the course, which will add shots to your score and make you so much more tired and even more errors will creep into you game.

This extra efforts usually results in tense muscles of which the most common error is the first movement from the top - the right arm straightens too much so the clubhead goes immediately outside the plane. From there there is very little chance you will get the club back on plane.

I realise that different people have different problems with their swings, but I like to try and maintain the angle (distance) between the right hand and right shoulder as far into the downsing as possible. There's no way the right arm will be bent at impact so don't worry about that and trying to maintain that angle will help you resist the temptation to hit with the hands and get you to use the turn of the body instead. I would even recommend you to forceably maintain that angle until you get the feel of the action. You can even buy strapping (golf aids) to help you maintain the angle but that seems a little dangerous to me and may result in injuries.

[mr3856a]

Re: Slicing

what could be making me turn from a straighting hitting beginner into a slicing not to beginner?

I think you may have answered your own question...

trying to find out how to get that addition 30-40yds I need per club

[Simon Woo]

Re: Slicing

Thanks guys. All those hours spent practising without a mirror, without a pro, without a video camera, all gone to waste :P Got my swing corrected by my coach last night, and I'm back to good contact with the ball. All because of one simple mistake : I was letting my right shoulder come in too early (yep in my quest to get more distance and trying to whack the ball). Consciously kept it back last night and the shots were back to normal. What really scares me now is that I would not have been able to figure it out by myself hitting 1000 balls again and again trying to get that contact, but one quick observation from my coach brought that instantly into light

[mr3856a]

Re: Slicing

That's what coaches are for, Kimosabe. Even Tiger's got one.

[Simon Woo]

Re: Slicing

But I can't afford to have lessons every week I guess at the most beginner level, we'll need much more lessons and hopefully soon I'll be able to get to the level where I will only need specific sessions to correct my swing. Next week will be my 15th and last lesson that I've signed up so far.

[pinyo8]

Re: Slicing

As for seeing coaches, dont see one why will just do a quick fix. If you are going to be committed and want to improve, then find a coach that you want to stay with for a while. Get him to teach one or two things at a time so that you can work on them for a couple of weeks or so. Once you get used to that and you feel that you have done it right, work on the next thing. A golf swing has many steps before it can be done correctly so fine a coach that you feel has those right steps for you.

[Newbie4me]

Re: Old-guy newbie needs to stop slicing

Okay, I'm back again with a lot of good information.
It's been a year since I started golf and I can finally hit pretty straight now. =) I'm losing 1 ball on 18 holes instead of the 20 lost in the beginning.
Let me start by going over what I _tried_ to do to get rid of my slice:
- I tried to guess what my shaft flex (or stiffness) should be. This forces you to adjust your swing speed, which is bad for consistency.
- I tried to time the "flip" of my wrist to turn my hand over at the "release point" of my swing. Hard to do and makes you "spray" your balls all over the place.
What I did to start hitting straight:
- Adjusted my grip. Made sure the "v" between my thumb and first finger of my left had pointed between my right cheek and right shoulder on setup (address). Made a *huge* difference!
- Got my swing analized. Strength of grip coupled with head speed gives you a good idea of the shaft flex you should get. Frequency testing should be done on the shaft to ensure it meets your flex grade. The flex showing on the shafts of modern drivers do not follow the same measurements. A X-tra stiff shaft from one manufacturer may not be a X-tra stiff for another. Frequency testing the shaft will allow you to get a consistent measurement of the different manufacturer's shafts. Swing analysis also checks the "lie" of your club's head. If I understand "lie angle" correctly, I believe it means the bottom of your club head should be flat against the ground (not toe touching or heal touching) at setup. If the toe of your club head touches the ground, the toe will hit the ground first during your swing, which twists your club head into an "open" position causing a slice.
I hope the information I posted helps. It took me the majority of the past year to finally start to hit straight. Sad part is, it was a combination of grip, shaft stiffness, and head "lie angle" that caused my severe slice.
If this information helps one person, it would be worth the year I spent suffering to find the answer.
Let me know if this helped you.

Aloha!
Newbie4Me

[Kenny1]

Hi There

I think my hips are to fast.Can anyone help me??

[ChadCash]

Re: Slicing

If you are slicing then your hips are not too fast. Too fast of a lower body should cause a block and not a slice. You are coming over top and your first move is probably not with your hips but with your upper body and it just feels like your hips. Give some more info my diagonsis my be totally wrong.

[mhpopp]

Re: Old-guy newbie needs to stop slicing

a thin coating of vasoline on the face of your driver will take care of your slice. its illegal, but it works!