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  • #1

    Tiger's Swing

    I know he's great. I'm a Tiger fan.

    I know I'm a nobody.

    I know he recently hit almost every fairway in the last two rounds of the AT&T.

    I know.

    But.............

    I would not be surprised to see Tiger remodel his swing after this performance. He's still not as consistent at ball striking as he either should be, or wants to be.

    Has anybody else got issues with just how much he seems to want to roll the face of his club open on the backswing? It's resulting in serious timing issues because he HAS to roll it hard to close the clubface on the ball. And he's missing waaaaaaaaay right or, in an effort to correct it, waaaaaaaaaaaaay left.

    For him to be as good as he wants to be, he can't carry on with his current swing. When he's off he's so far off, the ball's off the planet. He will not surpass the major record of Jack Nicklaus with his current swing. The major courses are too difficult to be THAT wayward. His swing is too fiddly, too complex and just looks all wrong.

    He's having to try to hard.

    And he knows it.
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    hi Neil
    Tiger has had problems with his driver for years. he has great distance but when he goes of line he often way of line. in the past he has had days where he can't find a fairway with the driver but the rest of his game comes to the rescue.
    he did seem a bit limited in his choice of shots today and maybe his year lay off has affected the number of shots he now has in his bag.
    did not look like the Tiger of old today.
    cheers
    Bill

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    • #3
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      It wasn't just his driver though.

      You could see he was fighting with the club on every full shot. He kept the driver away for most of today.

      It just all looks wrong. Too much fanning. Dunno why he does that. Too laid off at the top. Too aggressive at the start of the downswing and absolutely no control. He mis-hit a lot of his shots today and was so unconfident in his swing that he was just trying to baff it round, and was regularly 30-50 yards behind his partners either out of choice to try and keep the ball on the golf course, or due to shocking contact. If we can see it, he must know it.

      Worrying, considering he can choose to practice all day, every day if he wants. For the best in the world, with access to everyone and time on his hands, he shouldn't be spraying like that.

      I can understand JB Holmes visiting the deepest parts of Scotland with his ape-like swing, but not someone with Tiger's class and ability. Something is wrong, and it needs addressing.

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      • #4
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        Hi Neil
        the last few opens Tiger has strugled when the wind got up.
        he was ok at St Andrews but that course is short and wide and only high rough on the right hand side.
        he does hit the ball high, even his stinger is higher then a lot of other golfers that try and hit low.
        like you said he did not look comfortable with a lot of his shots and today was a real test as the fairways were not wide and the R&A had the spectators well back so there was a good 10 to 15 yards of high rough before you got to the parts that were walked on. it not often you see tiger lose a ball and he had about 50 people looking for it.
        today was not a bad day weather wise. most golfers that play links golf have that sort of weather 2 days out of 5 and it can get a lot worse.
        cheers
        Bill

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        • #5
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          I agree Neil,

          He kept looking like he was just swinging out of his skin and losing connection and tempo with the resulting sprayed shots normal of a handicap golfer. Why???

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          • #6
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            His whole action just suddenly looks odd, uncomfortable and bizarre to me.

            I'm sure that a few top golf coaches would be screwing their noses up at what it looks like Tiger's trying to do in his golf swing at the moment. As Mark James pointed out, his lines look all wrong. He's having to rely on hand action and hand-eye coordination to get teh ball on target.

            He should be doing miles better, even on a tough course.

            Maybe he should go see Tom Watson for lessons. Beautiful, timeless, powerful and accurate action.

            It's a mystery to me Bri.

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            • #7
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              tiger's still winning PGA events still, but I think his best days are past him. The knee probs, 9 months off golf, a young family, more money that he can count, an appalling on and off course attitude (petulance, arrogance, conceit), an inability to drive the ball on anything but wide open courses, a stoic resistance to change putters though the model he has used for years now seems cold - all combine to reduce his chances of winning another Major. He is still the best golfer in the world, but there isnt much competition for that spot. Past it, no. Past his best, yes.

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              • #8
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                Good observations about Tiger's swing, Neil.

                I believe his main problem is the same he's had all through his career. His club gets stuck behind, and he can't save the shot. That may be because he still tries to fire those hips and is coming up on his shots.

                When he was hitting the ball the best, that was in the Harmon period, when he had a connected 3/4 wide backswing.

                Ted

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                • #9
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                  I forgot to mention in the previous post that Tiger will hang in there, because he can make miraculous shots like no one else can. You remember all of them, going back to when he won the U.S. Amateur three consecutive times. There's the chip shot at the 16th hole at the Masters, the 220 yard 6 iron out of a fairway bunker over water to the 18th at the Canadian Open (i forget who the Aussie was who was in his group and tied with Tiger. He was in awe.)

                  He is also one of the greatest putters in golf, particularly for meaningful putts.

                  Having said this, if he hits his drives where he and hundreds of his fans can't find the ball, the shotmaking and putting is not going to help.

                  Ted

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by rotator View Post
                    Good observations about Tiger's swing, Neil.

                    I believe his main problem is the same he's had all through his career. His club gets stuck behind, and he can't save the shot. That may be because he still tries to fire those hips and is coming up on his shots.

                    When he was hitting the ball the best, that was in the Harmon period, when he had a connected 3/4 wide backswing.

                    Ted
                    Fully agree with that Ted. His hip firing has caused him problems and the many many others who have followed his example.

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                    • #11
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                      hi
                      when you look at Tiger and Tom Watson with the driver at the Open, you see thet Tom seemed to be swinging well within himself and has wonderful timing and playing his driver so well. With Tiger he seemed to be trying to hit it so hard and its his timing that seems to go off. (ie:- hitting the ground behind the ball with the driver.( he did that a feww times on the second day.
                      we all know that in the wind the last thing you try and do is swing faster as the results are always bad.
                      cheers
                      Bill

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                      • #12
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                        Was watching his putting yesterday and even that failed him.He was missing 4 footers,not the Tiger of a year ago. It was good to see even Tiger can get frustrated enough to throw his club down in disgust. Made me feel a little better about my own petulance at times.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by golfshooter View Post
                          Was watching his putting yesterday and even that failed him.He was missing 4 footers,not the Tiger of a year ago. It was good to see even Tiger can get frustrated enough to throw his club down in disgust. Made me feel a little better about my own petulance at times.
                          Yes his annoyance was thee for all to see wasn't it! Gotta be bad when the world no.1 starts lobbing clubs! He no happy bunny.

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                          • #14
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                            It should be interesting. The commentators were saying that when he last had this situation (flaming out), he really worked hard to fix the problem and came back at Firestone for the World Golf Championship and won by playing really well. He is a proud and determined guy, so this really hurts him, and the old Tiger would do whatever it takes to come back and save face.

                            However, perhaps his game is off that much now, and he may never be as good as he was. Perhaps, the good life and middle age family life is in the way.

                            Ted

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                            • #15
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                              I still think he can do it,he is one of the greats of the game and I believe this last outing would have really stung. When he looks at the replays and I have no doubt he will, he will be doubly disgusted with his performance and behaviour. Beware the injured Tiger!
                              Peter

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