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It's definatley the same at my club if not worse (plus 4s and all some weekends in summer) But the course is increadable that why I put up with the snobery.

I have a £25000 mitsubishi warrior pick up brand new last year, full leather all the trimming and something I am very proud off, I was told by one complete ******** that all vans have to be parked on the bottom car park.

There could have been a fight.........but I augued my case with the commitee and they have changed their rule to company vans with logos on the side.

That reminds me you cant where any shirts with company logos on, shorts knee length, sock the same, clubhouse with your cap on"shot at dawn".


Just learn to live with it any good club is the same, that why they are good because of all the pompus ****** complaining if everything isn't just so.

Ian.

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I'm afraid you get that sort thing rediculous behaviour every now and then. You know, you're not joining Wentworth for goodness sake! I don't hear incidents like yours very often but when I do they are over the most rediculous little things and they cost the club not only membership fees but future green fees as well.

Bad news and comments spread very quickly in golf and I hope everyone got to hear of your incident, including the clubs management and Captain!

I had a colleague some time back who went a golf club for a juniors clinic and was refused entry into the bar area because he still had his teaching golf shoes on. Teaching golf shoes have the golf shoe upper with a flat rubber sole, so we don't have to stand in spikes all day long but still wear golf shoes. He produced his PGA card and the barman couldn't have cared less. As far as the barman was concerned, they were golf shoes and he wasn't allowed in the bar area. Going in with socks on wasn't acceptable either. Running shoes and sandles are fine though. For goodness sake, we can go into Wenworth with teaching shoes on!

Over Christmas one of my pupils who is a touring professional of some note, was refused a tee time at a local golf club. The reason we got: Jesper Parnevik style golf clothing was not allowed at their club, it's not deemed proper golf attire. Producing his tour card didn't help and a call to the local PGA office couldn't move them either. So, we played somewhere else who were too thrilled to have a tour player visit them.

You're best stay away from clubs like that.

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Oh well, I guess I won't be playing at your club! I only wear clothing with Strata, Kelrosa Golf Studios and Dynacraft on them.

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My club has rules but not over the top, when in the clubhouse shirt tucked in , caps off fair engough and we have a spike bar you alowed golf shoes on and main bar shoes only, but for some reason your not alowed shorts on in the main bar?

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Man, are you allowed to 'break wind' at some of these clubs or do ya' have to wait till ya' get back home?

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No kidding! There are no public courses with rules anything CLOSE to this here in Canada. I'm sure you will run into a few upper class private courses that have uppity rules, but none that would even have you remove your hat.

Last summer I played at Banff Springs (one of the top 20 courses in all of Canada) and we all walked in with our spiked shoes and our hats on our head and the staff were more than happy to serve us.

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Well its all different and so we just gotta put up with it

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Hehe... I can play with a tshirt on if I like... the only rules @ our course is no sweats, no cutoffs, and no tank tops.

Granted, membership is only $500 CDN/year, the whole town is only 5500 strong, and the course is 9 hole... but it's sloped and rated right up the middle.

There are certainly cliques, but no snobbery here.

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Wow... sounds like I get off easy! We just have to wear sleved collared shirts (for men, and they don't even have to be tucked in), have to have your own bag, etc.. I have no idea what the rules are for women though.

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Funny, I play a tournament once at a really really nice private club, and after we finished the round there were guys that would take your clubs and clean them. I was a bit uncomfortable with this since I’ve always consider washing off the dirt from all my bad strokes a bit of a ritual.

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This has been a problem since since we first dragged our clubs onto the beach.
Snobbery is dying out slowly but surely in the more 'middle ground' clubs (ones that joe public can afford to join) along with the old guard that perpetuate it. you have to remember that most clubs are run on the opinion of the people who are most active there and are around the club the most, namely the retired.

Guys over 60 still have strong opinions on what they percieve as the right way to behave and that extends to one's appearance. These guys basically run every club in the world because they are the only ones that bother turning up at AGM's. If you want the rules changed, be pro-active and do it by ballot, its the only way.

Personally, theres nothing that annoys me more than jeans (non blue denim, you know the style) trying to be trousers. Polo shirts look absolutely bloody ridiculous not tucked in by the way!! I am 30 and by no means suggesting we all turn up in plus fours, ties and jackets to play. But didnt anyone else think Kevin Costner looked pretty smart at the Dunhill Links last year??? That outfit, to me at least, showed the correct way to adhere to the dress code of the game.

Someone tell me they would have preferred to look like Ian Poulter did that week, go on I dare you.

I still think that the following should be the dress code:

Shirt with collar.
Tailored Trousers (no jeans)
Traditional Brogue style Golf shoes (none of these running shoe types)
Turtlenecks if its cold

Is it really so hard to do this, everyone else who plays a sport has a 'kit' be it rugby, soccer, tennis etc etc. Why shouldnt the above be a golfers 'kit'? Anything else smacks of laziness and lack of respect for the game. Too many people are getting sucked into the new wave of clothing.

I would love for Tiger to turn up at Muirfield or St Andrews in those stupid looking collarless shirts Nike make for him and get told to wear a more suitable shirt. It wont happen in the states of course, for he is 'the chosen one' but I would hope that the R&A would do something about it.

usmale, your comment:

has now lost the club two potential members and £2000

strike me as really petty. That'll show them huh? I dont think.

Not taking your hat off indoors is a no brainer, my old man would have cuffed me if I had tried it. Its just good manners, like standing up when a woman leaves the table or congratulating someone on a good shot.

Do you have some sort of monopoly on style because you are successfull? Congrats to you on whatever you have worked for and, I hope, rightly enjoy, but that attitude will get you nowhere in an awful lot of golf clubs, and you will be the loser, unfortunately. Now I know that it's not right and it shouldn't be the case and I hope you find a club that you are comfortable in. But I'm sorry, theres no way to beat this system. Rules are rules, if you want them changed attend your AGM, put forward changes to dress codes. I am afraid you will find yourself in the minority for many things.

Does everyone really want golf to go the same way as every other sport, hooping and hollering and cheating and bad manners? The whole attraction of this game is that it is (mostly) quiet, it demands honesty, it rewards patience and hard work.

I have learnt far more about being polite and well mannered on the golf course than I ever learnt at school. Surely we shouldnt deprive the next generation of golfers the same lessons just because we cant be bothered dressing correctly?

I agree that a lot of courses still cling to old fashioned standards, but it is our fault that in everyday life we no longer adhere to them, not theirs. This wasnt even an issue 20 years ago. It shouldnt be an issue now.

D.

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I dont think its snobery but they wont there players looking smart when they are in the bar and playing thr course, so then when other people come tp play it looks like a smart looking golf club with nice people!

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Mizunoman I agree, I think there should always be a certain level of class (in dress code) associated with the game, they just need to relax a bit at some of these places.

By the way, when I play I walk almost all the time and I see some people that also walk and wear those 'running shoe type' golf shoes, I have no problem with them at all. I think they're probably more comfortable than most golf shoes if you walk.

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Running shoes? what on the course? but you can pay the extra money and get some comfortable golf shoes