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  • #1

    Define 1ps and 2ps

    Quite a bit of reading but I'm not fully comprehending some threads. I don't understand what is meant by one plane swing v the two plane swing. Please define/describe.

    Not too 'blonder' moment I hope?

    Cheers
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  • #2
    Re: Define 1ps and 2ps

    The two plane swing is the more traditional of the two where the golfer swing more upright, the second half of the backswing will leave the shaft plane line then regain it by dropping the hands in the downswing. One plane swinger, are more flat and remain on the shaft plane line throughout.

    Tiger Wood, Peter Jacobson are good examples of single planes swings, Jack Nicklaus, Feddy Couple would be an example two planer swingers.
    Last edited by GoNavy; 02-27-2006, 09:27 AM.

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    • #3
      Re: Define 1ps and 2ps

      My personal definitions of 1ps and 2ps:

      From down the line view at the top of the backswing:

      1ps - the lead arm is in line with shoulders (ie can't see the shoulders)

      2ps - the lead arm is above the lag shoulder (ie gap between the arm and shoulders)

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      • #4
        Re: Define 1ps and 2ps

        Hi,
        Here is a golf digest article, with picture http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...ingplane1.html
        (link posted by GoNavy earlier). Make it easier for me to understand 1ps vs 2 ps.

        Do you learn different styles or do they grow on you? Should I experiment on different styles to see what works for me? Or should I just experiment and let other say what style I am using?

        Hannu
        Last edited by Hannu; 03-04-2006, 05:03 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Define 1ps and 2ps

          Originally posted by Hannu

          Do you learn different styles or do they grow on you? Should I experiment on different styles to see what works for me? Or should I just experiment and let other say what style I am using?

          Hannu
          First off you need to recognise that 1PS/2PS is highly debatable to begin with, it is at best, the newest explaination to why golf instruction is failing, ie...people mixing and matching fundamentals of the two, and the fundamentals are slightly different, mostly in address and grip, starting the backswing.

          My view is that 1PS/2PS does exsist, however it is largely based on your body type and setup at address. Taller players tend to be (remember I said tend to be, not set in stone) 1PS because they bend over more, shorter players 2PS because they are more upright. Once again I will say, this is MY VIEW, you WILL get arguments in this area of the golf swing. So having said that, in my view you need to determine which you are and stick to the fundamental of that style, you will progress much quicker. Just my opinion.

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          • #6
            Re: Define 1ps and 2ps

            Maybe this discussion should be on an other part of the forum? Maybe in Swing instructions or practice. Sorry for that.

            Just a quick reply to GONavy:-)

            Maybe 1ps and 2ps can be considered as a mental exercise? Something to think about so that you get more aware of your own swing? By looking for difference and comparing different styles you can distinguish different elements form your own swing?

            The only danger might be that if we start to consciously control our swing, it changes. (Conscious and unconscious controls are different.)

            Hannu
            http://xo4us.blogspot.com

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            • #7
              Re: Define 1ps and 2ps

              I don't know if I can take any more 1sp or 2sp debates...

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              • #8
                Re: Define 1ps and 2ps

                New to this forum, I am finding several of the
                topics very interesting. I don't think this issue
                of one vs. two planes is incidental to decent golf
                at all. And, I find GoNavy's posts quite helpful &
                reflecting a lot of golf understanding.
                I learned the two plane swing early in the game
                and never strayed from it. The only thing is, it took
                a lot of practice and playing to get the feel of it.
                It has been called the "back and up" backswing
                and the best thing about it is that the shoulder
                turn can become definitely locked in. I believe
                one of the first things to go under pressure is
                the shoulder turn. The two phase helps. Loss of
                tempo also follows under pressure, but that's one
                I'm still trying to master.

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